MRingModulator with frequency below 20Hz?
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- KVRist
- 224 posts since 4 Jun, 2016
Hi!
In a sound design video for a lead sound someone used the built-in ring modulator of Ableton Live for a kind of tremolo effect. For that he used a sine wave with 12Hz.
When I tried to rebuild this patch I noticed that I couldn't do that. Melda's standard oscillator is wonderful and versatile but it doesn't allow for frequencies below 20Hz.
Any idea how to achieve the trick? Or will be this a feature request? *
Masi
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One of thise
a) allow frequencies as low as 0.001 Hz up to 20kHz
b) a button to switc OSC into LFO mode allowing frequencies from 0.001 Hz to 100Hz
In a sound design video for a lead sound someone used the built-in ring modulator of Ableton Live for a kind of tremolo effect. For that he used a sine wave with 12Hz.
When I tried to rebuild this patch I noticed that I couldn't do that. Melda's standard oscillator is wonderful and versatile but it doesn't allow for frequencies below 20Hz.
Any idea how to achieve the trick? Or will be this a feature request? *
Masi
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One of thise
a) allow frequencies as low as 0.001 Hz up to 20kHz
b) a button to switc OSC into LFO mode allowing frequencies from 0.001 Hz to 100Hz
- KVRian
- 1093 posts since 23 Sep, 2006
Ha ha, here's the funny thing... A ring modulator is actually just a very fast tremolo. Slowing a ring modulator down to below audible frequencies (e.g. Below 20Hz) makes it a tremolo, so just use Mtremolo instead.
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- KVRian
- 1061 posts since 3 Oct, 2011
Not quite. A ring modulator inverts the phace for half of the cycle. Sometimes the difference is negligible, to sometimes not.vectorwarrior wrote:A ring modulator is actually just a very fast tremolo.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 224 posts since 4 Jun, 2016
Not at all. A ring modulator outputs the sum and difference of each of the frequencies present in each waveform. Easy to verify using a spectrum analyzer.vectorwarrior wrote:Ha ha, here's the funny thing... A ring modulator is actually just a very fast tremolo.
The fact that ring modulation of a signal with a sine wave below 20 Hz results in a tremolo effect is probably due to the fact that the ear or the brain notices mostly one of the bands. In reality the pitch changes up and down at the same time.
So yes, I could use a tremolo. And actually in the whole mix it didn't made a real difference, still it's not the same.
Masi
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 224 posts since 4 Jun, 2016
I did it again. I awlways mix up tremolo and vibrato. So I assume now that you hear a tremolo because you hear a change in volume because there is one - at the frquency of the sine wave.masitito wrote:vectorwarrior wrote:The fact that ring modulation of a signal with a sine wave below 20 Hz results in a tremolo effect is probably due to the fact that the ear or the brain notices mostly one of the bands. In reality the pitch changes up and down at the same time.
So the differene to a "pure" vibrato is that that there is also a synced dual pitch shift.
Masi
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14325 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Ring modulator really is a very fast tremolo 
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 224 posts since 4 Jun, 2016
I still don't get it.MeldaProduction wrote:Ring modulator really is a very fast tremolo
If I fully modulate a 400Hz sine wave with a 20Hz sine wave I get two sine waves at 380Hz and 420Hz just as the description as sum+difference will predict. I do get also get an amplitude modulation which looks like a fully-rectified (?) sine wave (note that the minimum volume is 0dB).
If I lower the modulation depth the original 400 Hz wave is present and the shape of the amplitude modulation changes. It gets quite whacky, a bit like a big sine wave followed by smaller one (both rectified).
If I use a tremolo (20Hz sine wave) I don't get the sidebands and the shape of the amplitude modulation looks different. It looks like a sine wave.
So no, I'm not convinced that ring modulation simply results in a fast tremolo. Yes, a part of the effect is like a tremolo, but depending on the strength of the modulation you get extra frequencies up to the point where the original frequencies disappears.
Originally I thought that Melda's super-duper OSC doesn't run that low, but in MTremolo it goes as low as 0.001 Hz. So why not in MRingModulator? Actually that was all I was askign for in the first place.
Masi
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- KVRian
- 1061 posts since 3 Oct, 2011
At half strength ring modulation should be equivalent of tremolo as the mix with the dry signal will cancel out other effects of rm, while at greater depths it will do its own thing. If what is claimed to be ring modulation actually is ring modulation as I undertand it where half of each cycle will have an inverted phase.
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- KVRist
- 77 posts since 1 Aug, 2009
he difference between tremolo (amplitude modulation) and ring modulation is that with (ideal) ring modulation the carrier is suppressed from the output and only the sum and difference frequencies remain.
So if the carrier is at too low a frequency to be audible...
EDIT: I seem to be getting my carriers and modulators confused again.
So if the carrier is at too low a frequency to be audible...
EDIT: I seem to be getting my carriers and modulators confused again.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14325 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Masi, try this for yourself in MXXX:
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 224 posts since 4 Jun, 2016
Very nice of you, but I have to admit I don't have MXXX. I'm unsure if I can use the trial, because I have used many once for one of the remix contests.MeldaProduction wrote:Masi, try this for yourself in MXXX:
The observations I made I have done with MRingModulator and MTremolo. I can post a Reaper project with my test rig or simply the WAV/FLAC files for the different setups.
Masi
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14325 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Just check with the demo 
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 224 posts since 4 Jun, 2016
Hi Vojtech,
what did you do with the OSC? When I create a sine wave it's pure. I checked but couldn't spot the difference. Some magic must be goning on.
Anyway I added to your setup two ring-modulators for comparison. The first one with a depth of 100% and the second one with 50%. The second RM showed indeed a same spectrogram as the tremolo, but the first one didn't.
So IMHO it is true when you say that tremolo (would it be correct to say amplitide modulation?) and and ring modulation with a depth of 50% are identical. But when the depth is 100% the result is different.
I used 440Hz and 20Hz as seen in here:
Too bad I cannot test 10Hz with MXXX as I found no Melda OSC that produces any audio output below 20Hz. I tried to use MFreqShifter to reduce the 20Hz but failed to route its output to the sidechain of MRingMod. Need to learn about routing in MXXX first.
Back to may basic request: please change the oscillator in MFreqShifter to allow for frequencies below 20Hz.
Masi
what did you do with the OSC? When I create a sine wave it's pure. I checked but couldn't spot the difference. Some magic must be goning on.
Anyway I added to your setup two ring-modulators for comparison. The first one with a depth of 100% and the second one with 50%. The second RM showed indeed a same spectrogram as the tremolo, but the first one didn't.
So IMHO it is true when you say that tremolo (would it be correct to say amplitide modulation?) and and ring modulation with a depth of 50% are identical. But when the depth is 100% the result is different.
I used 440Hz and 20Hz as seen in here:
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to may basic request: please change the oscillator in MFreqShifter to allow for frequencies below 20Hz.
Masi
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- KVRAF
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
That code box does not scroll here (on Firefox) - reported on "Site Stuff".
Edit: now it's OK
Edit: now it's OK
Last edited by DarkStar on Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 224 posts since 4 Jun, 2016
Here's just Vojtechs trenolo replaced by a ring modulator at 100% depth as my first patch was too large for KVR:
As you can see the result differs.
Masi
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