AMD Ryzen 3rd gen. ZEN 2 processors for audio PC
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
Probably in the lab testing. 
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- KVRist
- 194 posts since 17 Jun, 2002
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- KVRian
- 1104 posts since 31 Aug, 2004
Please, guys, make sure you do not use huge sampled libraries and super low latencies as here new multiple dies Ryzens are far behind the Intel's single die CPUs.
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
Cool story bro
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- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
That's significant single-thread boost compared to Ryzen 1700, which is interesting to me.
1775 vs 2979 is quite a big boost, even if I currently run it at 3,6 GHz instead of stock 3,0 GHz. With that taken into account I can still expect almost 40% performance boost, which is well enough for any single-thread projects (especially mastering with Ozone
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1775 vs 2979 is quite a big boost, even if I currently run it at 3,6 GHz instead of stock 3,0 GHz. With that taken into account I can still expect almost 40% performance boost, which is well enough for any single-thread projects (especially mastering with Ozone
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- KVRian
- 1121 posts since 6 Mar, 2004
It's worth emphasizing that only the 3900X has two compute dies, the 3700X and 3800X (and lower) are all single die processors, just like intel...
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- KVRian
- 1104 posts since 31 Aug, 2004
You are right, my fault. With Ryzen 3000 they changed the number of cores per die from 4 to 8 but still uses 4-core CCX within one CCD. In terms of inter CCX communication there is still one infinity fabric for both CCX inside the CCD. So it is not clean 8-Core die. We will see if 3990x and higher change the bad reputation of previous Ryzen.
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 9684 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
I have seen a number of benchmarks and reviews though and it looks like in multi thread the AMD really pulls away, but in single thread the AMD chips are now equaling the Intel chips. The main difference is price (oh and security perhaps).
Still need to see DAW bench and specifically the Cubase results.
But 4000 series with more IPC enhancements scheduled for next year, I'm thinking I'll wait then.. Even if I go for a 3k chip they will be on discount and motherboards (hopefully a B550) will be out and bios matured. Plus PCIe 4 devices (mostly data drives) should be in more abundance. Oh, and maybe Intel will get their heads out of the sand..
Still need to see DAW bench and specifically the Cubase results.
But 4000 series with more IPC enhancements scheduled for next year, I'm thinking I'll wait then.. Even if I go for a 3k chip they will be on discount and motherboards (hopefully a B550) will be out and bios matured. Plus PCIe 4 devices (mostly data drives) should be in more abundance. Oh, and maybe Intel will get their heads out of the sand..
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- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
It's the sound of progress, baby!
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AM ... 3493vs2970
(I see that these are not exactly equivalent products price-wise, but the raw numbers growing in just over two years are impressive).
It's like asking Apple to lower their prices to help the poor or whatever.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AM ... 3493vs2970
(I see that these are not exactly equivalent products price-wise, but the raw numbers growing in just over two years are impressive).
Dafuq?change the bad reputation of previous Ryzen
Not sooner than they're not able to sell anything. There is no reason to lower a price if you can sell a product for twice as muchOh, and maybe Intel will get their heads out of the sand..
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- KVRist
- 253 posts since 1 Dec, 2013 from Belgium
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- KVRian
- 1121 posts since 6 Mar, 2004
Cores always need access to other cores and cache wherever they are architecturally located, and there's no one perfect solution.poshook wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:29 pmYou are right, my fault. With Ryzen 3000 they changed the number of cores per die from 4 to 8 but still uses 4-core CCX within one CCD. In terms of inter CCX communication there is still one infinity fabric for both CCX inside the CCD. So it is not clean 8-Core die. We will see if 3990x and higher change the bad reputation of previous Ryzen.
AMD has infinity fabric, Intel used to have a ringbus system and now has a mesh. The systems are actually not very easily comparable because they work very differently. If you want a gross simplification, ryzen is fast inside one CCX, but becomes slow once you need the 5th core on the other CCX -- intel's mesh is between those two examples in speed. What I mean by speed here is less latency.
What makes the whole question of "which is better" complicated, is that everything is also very dependent on what kind of workload you are feeding the processor. There simply is no universal "VST" performance. Effects and instruments can be programmed in myriad ways.
