Tracking Apple Silicon Native Hosts, Plugins, Effects
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- KVRAF
- 5427 posts since 18 Jul, 2002
Effects only, no instruments at all.Fleer wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:02 pm That snake oil guy on his M1 plug-ins:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uVdhmFspXaU
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
He's a mixing engineer, so I doubt he uses instrument.discoDSP wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:10 pmEffects only, no instruments at all.Fleer wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:02 pm That snake oil guy on his M1 plug-ins:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uVdhmFspXaU
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- KVRist
- 253 posts since 19 May, 2017 from Ukraine, Odesa
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
DAWs running under Rosetta can only host Intel plugins. This is important to note, given that at least one VST developer (Synapse) has chosen NOT to provide universal binaries, which means that you have to decide which version of the plugins to install - native or Intel. This means that if you installed the native versions, you cannot use them in a DAW running under Rosetta. In the case of Synapse, they are presently only providing native AUs, so it is probably possible to install the native AU, and the Intel VST.
By the way, the reverse it not always true. DAWs running native can often host Intel plugins via a Rosetta2 bridge. Logic Pro can. Reaper can do this with VSTs but not AUs. I believe native Bitwig can host Intel plugins. Not sure about Digital Performer.
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- KVRist
- 114 posts since 7 Jan, 2008
Confirmed for Bitwig 4 (in beta currently)...
teilo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:28 pmDAWs running under Rosetta can only host Intel plugins. This is important to note, given that at least one VST developer (Synapse) has chosen NOT to provide universal binaries, which means that you have to decide which version of the plugins to install - native or Intel. This means that if you installed the native versions, you cannot use them in a DAW running under Rosetta. In the case of Synapse, they are presently only providing native AUs, so it is probably possible to install the native AU, and the Intel VST.
By the way, the reverse it not always true. DAWs running native can often host Intel plugins via a Rosetta2 bridge. Logic Pro can. Reaper can do this with VSTs but not AUs. I believe native Bitwig can host Intel plugins. Not sure about Digital Performer.
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- KVRian
- 1274 posts since 9 Mar, 2008 from netherlands
Not sure if anyone has suggested this yet - kinda daunting to read through pages and pages - but Plug-in Gurus ‘Unify’ is a life saver. All the instrument plugins that don’t work or don’t show up in Logic Pro X - arrange page or plugin manager - work as vst’s in ‘Unify’.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
There are a number VSTs that can act as a bridge like this, but Unify is definitely one fo the best and most cost effective. Though this is not really an Apple Silicon vs. Intel thing.kelvyn wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:06 pm Not sure if anyone has suggested this yet - kinda daunting to read through pages and pages - but Plug-in Gurus ‘Unify’ is a life saver. All the instrument plugins that don’t work or don’t show up in Logic Pro X - arrange page or plugin manager - work as vst’s in ‘Unify’.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
If Plugin-Guru could release a native version of Unify that could also do Rosetta2 bridging for all AUs, VSTs, and VST3s, that would be an incredible help during this chaotic transition period.
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- KVRist
- 231 posts since 12 Sep, 2020
Valhalla effects are all official:
https://valhalladsp.com/2021/05/31/all- ... ompatible/
The "beta" seems to imply they are still in beta, to me at least, which might keep people away.
https://valhalladsp.com/2021/05/31/all- ... ompatible/
The "beta" seems to imply they are still in beta, to me at least, which might keep people away.
Yo Leroy!
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
Ok.BoogerSnotOrchestra wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:21 am Valhalla effects are all official:
https://valhalladsp.com/2021/05/31/all- ... ompatible/
The "beta" seems to imply they are still in beta, to me at least, which might keep people away.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
All Sugar Bytes plugins have been native for some time, as noted on my OP.
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