Softube or Reaktor block's

Modular Synth design and releases (Reaktor, SynthEdit, Tassman, etc.)
Simbucktwo
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1 posts since 13 Apr, 2020

Post Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:31 pm

Hi

I can't decide.

What are the none obvious pros and cons?

Thanks

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Calenberger
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1363 posts since 8 Sep, 2019 from Calenberg

Re: Softube or Reaktor block's

Post Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:38 pm

I've chosen Reaktor Blocks:
Their sound is quite good.
There are far more Blocks on offer than Softube's modules.
They are cheaper.
There's the Reaktor User Library.
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bmanic
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8601 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo

Re: Softube or Reaktor block's

Post Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:40 pm

I've gone with Reaktor as well, not because I've owned Reaktor since it's first release but because when I compared Softube vs Reaktor blocks I just preferred the sound of the blocks and Reaktor in general. However, the CPU usage is h e a v y!
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1750 posts since 4 Sep, 2011 from England

Re: Softube or Reaktor block's

Post Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:31 am

Reaktor is great I have both I just wish Softube would use a similar preset chooser to u-he.

WasteLand
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623 posts since 8 Jun, 2018

Re: Softube or Reaktor block's

Post Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:44 am

i have both. both have there merits. but if you already own reaktor 6.3x, full, perhaps reaktor is the way to go.
but i have to say the things you can do with softube modular, the sound is amazing. i invested in both (and voltage modular).
reaktor sounds also amazing, and you have the free buchla 200t....... not really blocks, but patchable modules.
the bloks are great from NI, toybox and euro reakt. (i have them all, except the synth bundle of toybox, for my needs, not interesting enough, although great, if you don't have voltage modular for instance.)
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parricide
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126 posts since 21 Nov, 2010

Re: Softube or Reaktor block's

Post Wed May 20, 2020 10:01 pm

for me its reaktor.
if you need to make changes to a module or even build a completely new one from the ground up it is very easy to do with reaktor.

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Re: Softube or Reaktor block's

Post Wed May 20, 2020 11:40 pm

Have you looked at Kilohearts' Phase Plant? It might be all the modular you need, depending on what you want to do.
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gentleclockdivider
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2718 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent

Re: Softube or Reaktor block's

Post Thu May 21, 2020 4:30 am

parricide wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:01 pm
for me its reaktor.
if you need to make changes to a module or even build a completely new one from the ground up it is very easy to do with reaktor.
Saying that it's easy might give a false indication to beginners . you need to know reaktor /core pretty well ( and dsp ingeneral ) and follow/adhere the blocks rules ( to maintain the highest quality .
Building a blocks adhering the blocks rule is easy if you know dsp and reaktor inside out ., if not and you're not as stupid as a rock it will still take some time to fully understand the core language .
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hivkorn
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3361 posts since 6 Sep, 2007 from France

Re: Softube or Reaktor block's

Post Thu May 21, 2020 11:06 pm

i had both , for me , Modular win . it's more expensive , have less module , but it sound really good and it's easy to uise

parricide
KVRist
126 posts since 21 Nov, 2010

Re: Softube or Reaktor block's

Post Mon May 25, 2020 3:48 pm

gentleclockdivider wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 4:30 am

Saying that it's easy might give a false indication to beginners . you need to know reaktor /core pretty well ( and dsp ingeneral ) and follow/adhere the blocks rules ( to maintain the highest quality .
Building a blocks adhering the blocks rule is easy if you know dsp and reaktor inside out ., if not and you're not as stupid as a rock it will still take some time to fully understand the core language .
agreed. maybe "easy" was the wrong word. easy in comparison, but not easy.
you will have to learn a lot about reaktor, but reaktor modules make that much easier than learning a programming language.
the level you need to be at depends on what you want to do. i would say you can build something simple within a day of use, following some tutorials.

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127 posts since 25 Mar, 2004 from Strasbourg, Saskatchewan, Canada

Re: Softube or Reaktor block's

Post Mon May 25, 2020 4:28 pm

I have Softube and like the Buchla and Intellijel - the new Vermona Random Rhythm is cool. However the placing and arranging of blocks is really clunky and unintuitive, and while the preset system is better than it was about a year ago or so (when every patch was this super large icon so you could only seem maybe 8-10 patches at a time, and when I complained to Softube about it the customer service rep told me that people liked that style!) it still isn't very smooth in my opinion.

Reaktor I tried, including Blocks, but I could never get into it, especially when I tried it and it was the whole dual screen for editing with "What the user sees" and "What is really happening" split. I know that probably was helpful for the uber-tweakers and programmers, but not for me.

I also have Voltage Modular and VCV rack. VCV gets used the most because of the user community, especially Omri Cohen and his tutorials. Voltage gets used second most. Then Softube, and then my Reaktor...

Just my opinions.

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DJ Warmonger
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3782 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw

Re: Softube or Reaktor block's

Post Tue May 26, 2020 3:07 am

Reaktor I tried, including Blocks, but I could never get into it, especially when I tried it and it was the whole dual screen for editing with "What the user sees" and "What is really happening" split. I know that probably was helpful for the uber-tweakers and programmers, but not for me.
This was improved, now you can directly place and patch Blocks in one view.
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