Bitwig

codec17 · Post by **codec17** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:48 pm

Do i see something wrong here? Do i forget something? Why is it when rendering/bounce there,s a slight difference all the time.? I want it spot on all the time!

pakunoda · Post by **pakunoda** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:02 pm

Can you give more details, such as if you bounce instrument or audio clip, and the chain FX components?

codec17 · Post by **codec17** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:11 pm

It an audioclip of 1bar with 2 snares in, without FX. (This case its bounce in place in arranger so fx doesnt even matter)
Now when using compressors or whatever you always chasing your own tail.
I dont mind to check it all the time but it would be nice to see it spot on. Just as i cut and place it.

jonljacobi · Post by **jonljacobi** » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:04 pm

Does the detected tempo change? Maybe the placement is being quantized? I've noticed the same thing on occasion. I agree, everything should be as it was placement and length-wise.

codec17 · Post by **codec17** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:17 pm

Ah wait a second....

When cut on transient and put your for example your snare tight on quantize, and its on stretch + (HD) it occurs.
So when in RAW mode it bounces almost tight!!!

My workaround is now.
1: put snare in clip/arranger.
2: cut on transient and bounce.
3: Then place snare in RAW mode on the quantize spot, and bounce again. (still theres a tiny difference)

Now im sure to move the snare freely without to worry if they are placed tight,.
But then again. It should be spot on and reliable.

codec17 · Post by **codec17** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:28 pm

While were at it... Am i the only one who thinks the waveforms are a bit hard to read?
I dont want to begin an ableton live vs bitwig discussion again.

But damn those waveforms are nice in live!!! What a pleasant thing to watch at. (but i cant be friends with live somehow)

WXLF · Post by **WXLF** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:38 am

codec17 wrote:While were at it... Am i the only one who thinks the waveforms are a bit hard to read?
I dont want to begin an ableton live vs bitwig discussion again.

But damn those waveforms are nice in live!!! What a pleasant thing to watch at. (but i cant be friends with live somehow)

Bitwig waveforms: look like they are etched in with a pencil

ableton waveforms: look drawn in with a fine tip sharpie

I kinda prefer the latter. easier on the eyes.

Andrei Marchenko · Post by **Andrei Marchenko** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:44 am

codec17 wrote:While were at it... Am i the only one who thinks the waveforms are a bit hard to read?

No

Cyoon · Post by **Cyoon** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:40 am

did you report it then codec17 ?

codec17 · Post by **codec17** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:35 am

Hi suloo,..

No not yet. Im trying to find a pattern why it sometimes doesnt happen.
Cant put my finger on it.

codec17 · Post by **codec17** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:38 am

WXLF wrote:
codec17 wrote:While were at it... Am i the only one who thinks the waveforms are a bit hard to read?
I dont want to begin an ableton live vs bitwig discussion again.

But damn those waveforms are nice in live!!! What a pleasant thing to watch at. (but i cant be friends with live somehow)
Bitwig waveforms: look like they are etched in with a pencil

ableton waveforms: look drawn in with a fine tip sharpie

I kinda prefer the latter. easier on the eyes.

Best comparison,... I keep that one in mind.

SoundLight · Post by **SoundLight** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:00 am

codec17 wrote:Hi suloo,..

No not yet. Im trying to find a pattern why it sometimes doesnt happen.
Cant put my finger on it.

Yup, confirmed, this randomly happens

codec17 · Post by **codec17** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:07 am

Andrei Marchenko · Post by **Andrei Marchenko** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:08 am

Hope that you already sent this video to support

lpr · Post by **lpr** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:50 am

codec17 wrote:Ah wait a second....
When cut on transient and put your for example your snare tight on quantize, and its on stretch + (HD) it occurs.
So when in RAW mode it bounces almost tight!!!
My workaround is now.
1: put snare in clip/arranger.
2: cut on transient and bounce.
3: Then place snare in RAW mode on the quantize spot, and bounce again. (still theres a tiny difference)

Now im sure to move the snare freely without to worry if they are placed tight,.
But then again. It should be spot on and reliable.

Yeah I always put it in RAW mode. I wish there was a way it would default it to RAW instead of stretch.

Bitwig

KVR Audio

Tight/not so tight?! After bounce in place..