KVR Audio

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:06 pm

Hi. I am not a dev. I am posting here in hope that someone can help me solve a problem. I have contacted the dev of the plugin but they are not able to help. I have googled extensively with no help. I emailed Apple about it and got no reply.

The plugin is Sonible smartEQlive. It works on my macbook pro. On my main music mac, a mac pro, it crashes Logic when it's instantiated. I can get it to work if I turn of the GUI. It will open in the file player VOX. But it wont open in other audio apps I have, either not doing anything or crashing them. The main problem is that it crashes Logic.

I tried re-installing, removing any file related I could find with a Path Finder search and re-installing. Recently I had to reformat and reinstall the OS 10.12 and back up from Time Machine.That didn't help.

It will work in Logic if I create a new user and run it from there. So it seems like something in my user files is making it not work.

Any ideas I can try? thanks for the help.

Aleksey Vaneev · Post by **Aleksey Vaneev** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:22 pm

Sorry to tell it, and my reply won't help much, but Apple owed me (and likely to you) some gray hair. Very sub-standard APIs, so developers easily produce incorrect code, or the code that does not work in all cases. Of course, developers should debug this, but it's not possible in all cases. On Windows, there are usually no problems with older software running on the next OS update. Some of my software from 15 years ago still runs like new on latest Windows.

No_Use · Post by **No_Use** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:31 pm

Have you tried running AU validation, what ddoes it say ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1riMuU7OGs

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:35 pm

Yes. I am no Apple fan. I have been a custerer since 1981 and over the last 10 year, well 12 now, Apple has gone down hill. However I am embedded in their products but I do not buy new Apple products anymore and won't unless they clean up their act.

I am just looking for a solution to get this plugin to work. Or some kind of ammunition to push back on Sonible to help me. They say they can't. I get the impresstion they dont have in house devs and perhaps contract that work out which makes support difficult. I am only guessing but that's my feeling based on the emails I've gotten.

If someone could give me some ideas that would be great.

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:42 pm

No_Use wrote:Have you tried running AU validation, what ddoes it say ?

It passes validate in Logic and shows up in the plugin menu. Here's what I get when I validate:

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validating Audio Unit smartEQlive by sonible:
AU Validation Tool
    Version: 1.6.1a1 
    Copyright 2003-2013, Apple Inc. All Rights Reserved.
    Specify -h (-help) for command options

--------------------------------------------------
VALIDATING AUDIO UNIT: 'aufx' - 'smEl' - 'Soni'
--------------------------------------------------
Manufacturer String: sonible
AudioUnit Name: smartEQlive
Component Version: 1.0.1 (0x10001)

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
TESTING OPEN TIMES:
COLD:
Time to open AudioUnit:         373.089 ms
Verifying the signature on the signed executable: /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components/smartEQlive.component/Contents/MacOS/smartEQlive
### Succeeded ###
WARM:
Time to open AudioUnit:         47.988  ms
FIRST TIME:
Time for initialization:        0.015 ms

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING DEFAULT SCOPE FORMATS:
Input Scope Bus Configuration:
 Default Bus Count:1
    Bus Name: Input
    Default Format: AudioStreamBasicDescription:  1 ch,  44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x00000029) 32-bit little-endian float, deinterleaved

Output Scope Bus Configuration:
 Default Bus Count:1
    Bus Name: Output
    Default Format: AudioStreamBasicDescription:  1 ch,  44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x00000029) 32-bit little-endian float, deinterleaved

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING REQUIRED PROPERTIES:

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING RECOMMENDED PROPERTIES:
  VERIFYING PROPERTY: Latency
    PASS
  VERIFYING PROPERTY: Tail Time
    PASS
  VERIFYING PROPERTY: Bypass Effect
    PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING OPTIONAL PROPERTIES:

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING SPECIAL PROPERTIES:

VERIFYING CUSTOM UI
Cocoa Views Available: 1
  JUCE_AUCocoaViewClass_23ed685f951e3baf
    PASS

HAS FACTORY PRESETS

VERIFYING CLASS INFO
    PASS

TESTING HOST CALLBACKS
    PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
PUBLISHED PARAMETER INFO:

# # # 66 Global Scope Parameters:

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
FORMAT TESTS:

Reported Channel Capabilities (explicit):
      [1, 1]  [2, 2]  

Input/Output Channel Handling:
1-1   1-2   1-4   1-5   1-6   1-7   1-8   2-2   2-4   2-5   2-6   2-7   2-8   4-4   4-5   5-5   6-6   7-7   8-8
X                                         X                                                                       

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
RENDER TESTS:

Input Format: AudioStreamBasicDescription:  1 ch,  44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x00000029) 32-bit little-endian float, deinterleaved
Output Format: AudioStreamBasicDescription:  1 ch,  44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x00000029) 32-bit little-endian float, deinterleaved
Render Test at 512 frames
Slicing Render Test at 64 frames
  PASS


Render Test at 64 frames, sample rate: 22050 Hz
Render Test at 137 frames, sample rate: 96000 Hz
Render Test at 4096 frames, sample rate: 48000 Hz
Render Test at 4096 frames, sample rate: 192000 Hz
Render Test at 4096 frames, sample rate: 11025 Hz
Render Test at 512 frames, sample rate: 44100 Hz
  PASS

2 Channel Test:
Render Test at 512 frames
  PASS

Checking connection semantics:
Connection format:
AudioStreamBasicDescription:  1 ch,  44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x00000029) 32-bit little-endian float, deinterleaved
  PASS

Bad Max Frames - Render should fail
  PASS

Checking parameter setting
Using AudioUnitSetParameter
Using AudioUnitScheduleParameter
  PASS

Test MIDI
  PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
AU VALIDATION SUCCEEDED.
--------------------------------------------------


validation result: successfully validated

updating properties of AU smartEQlive by sonible…done.

When Logic crashes after I try and instantiate smartEQlive here is the debug output. I deleted a lot due to post character limits.

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Process:               Logic Pro X [28694]
Path:                  /Applications/Logic Pro X.app/Contents/MacOS/Logic Pro X
Identifier:            com.apple.logic10
Version:               10.4.1 (4905.31)
Build Info:            MALogic-4905030000000000~2
App Item ID:           634148309
App External ID:       825945185
Code Type:             X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process:        ??? [1]
Responsible:           Logic Pro X [28694]
User ID:               501

PlugIn Path:             /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components/smartEQlive.component/Contents/MacOS/smartEQlive
PlugIn Identifier:       com.sonible.smartEQlive
PlugIn Version:          1.0.1 (1.0.1)

Date/Time:             2018-07-05 14:43:15.209 -0400
OS Version:            Mac OS X 10.12.6 (16G29)
Report Version:        12
Anonymous UUID:        ABFA2752-C81C-D43D-22B6-EC1F852A73E7


Time Awake Since Boot: 74000 seconds

System Integrity Protection: disabled

Crashed Thread:        0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type:        EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes:       KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000018
Exception Note:        EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Termination Signal:    Segmentation fault: 11
Termination Reason:    Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0xb
Terminating Process:   exc handler [0]

VM Regions Near 0x18:
--> 
    __TEXT                 000000010823b000-0000000109d23000 [ 26.9M] r-x/rwx SM=COW  /Applications/Logic Pro X.app/Contents/MacOS/Logic Pro X

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
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7   com.sonible.smartEQlive       	0x00000001b1848fc6 0x1b17e8000 + 397254
8   com.sonible.smartEQlive       	0x00000001b17f2767 0x1b17e8000 + 42855
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===========                       =======  ======= 
TOTAL                                7.0G     2682 
TOTAL, minus reserved VM space       5.7G     2682

Vokbuz · Post by **Vokbuz** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:01 am

I can make only two conclusions from this crash report:
1) There is an attempt to access null pointer somewhere in the code (KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000018)
2) This attempt happens on main thread (Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread)

So it looks like there is a real bug in the UI code or during plugin instantiation. There are no symbol names in the binary so it will be hard to debug this without sources.

Still, I have a wild guess about this. Plugin may crash because it silently fails to load resources (or not silently, you may check the Logic's logs). I would compare file system case-sensivity on both machines. For example, plugin may have resource named resource.ext, but in the code it is referenced as Resource.ext (or vice versa). In this case it won't be found on case-sensitive file systems which will cause a crash later.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:08 am

plexuss wrote:

No_Use wrote:Have you tried running AU validation, what ddoes it say ?

It passes validate in Logic and shows up in the plugin menu. Here's what I get when I validate:

Code: Select all

validating Audio Unit smartEQlive by sonible:
AU Validation Tool
    Version: 1.6.1a1 
    Copyright 2003-2013, Apple Inc. All Rights Reserved.
    Specify -h (-help) for command options

--------------------------------------------------
VALIDATING AUDIO UNIT: 'aufx' - 'smEl' - 'Soni'
--------------------------------------------------
Manufacturer String: sonible
AudioUnit Name: smartEQlive
Component Version: 1.0.1 (0x10001)

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
TESTING OPEN TIMES:
COLD:
Time to open AudioUnit:         373.089 ms
Verifying the signature on the signed executable: /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components/smartEQlive.component/Contents/MacOS/smartEQlive
### Succeeded ###
WARM:
Time to open AudioUnit:         47.988  ms
FIRST TIME:
Time for initialization:        0.015 ms

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING DEFAULT SCOPE FORMATS:
Input Scope Bus Configuration:
 Default Bus Count:1
    Bus Name: Input
    Default Format: AudioStreamBasicDescription:  1 ch,  44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x00000029) 32-bit little-endian float, deinterleaved

Output Scope Bus Configuration:
 Default Bus Count:1
    Bus Name: Output
    Default Format: AudioStreamBasicDescription:  1 ch,  44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x00000029) 32-bit little-endian float, deinterleaved

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING REQUIRED PROPERTIES:

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING RECOMMENDED PROPERTIES:
  VERIFYING PROPERTY: Latency
    PASS
  VERIFYING PROPERTY: Tail Time
    PASS
  VERIFYING PROPERTY: Bypass Effect
    PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING OPTIONAL PROPERTIES:

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING SPECIAL PROPERTIES:

VERIFYING CUSTOM UI
Cocoa Views Available: 1
  JUCE_AUCocoaViewClass_23ed685f951e3baf
    PASS

HAS FACTORY PRESETS

VERIFYING CLASS INFO
    PASS

TESTING HOST CALLBACKS
    PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
PUBLISHED PARAMETER INFO:

# # # 66 Global Scope Parameters:

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
FORMAT TESTS:

Reported Channel Capabilities (explicit):
      [1, 1]  [2, 2]  

Input/Output Channel Handling:
1-1   1-2   1-4   1-5   1-6   1-7   1-8   2-2   2-4   2-5   2-6   2-7   2-8   4-4   4-5   5-5   6-6   7-7   8-8
X                                         X                                                                       

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
RENDER TESTS:

Input Format: AudioStreamBasicDescription:  1 ch,  44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x00000029) 32-bit little-endian float, deinterleaved
Output Format: AudioStreamBasicDescription:  1 ch,  44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x00000029) 32-bit little-endian float, deinterleaved
Render Test at 512 frames
Slicing Render Test at 64 frames
  PASS


Render Test at 64 frames, sample rate: 22050 Hz
Render Test at 137 frames, sample rate: 96000 Hz
Render Test at 4096 frames, sample rate: 48000 Hz
Render Test at 4096 frames, sample rate: 192000 Hz
Render Test at 4096 frames, sample rate: 11025 Hz
Render Test at 512 frames, sample rate: 44100 Hz
  PASS

2 Channel Test:
Render Test at 512 frames
  PASS

Checking connection semantics:
Connection format:
AudioStreamBasicDescription:  1 ch,  44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x00000029) 32-bit little-endian float, deinterleaved
  PASS

Bad Max Frames - Render should fail
  PASS

Checking parameter setting
Using AudioUnitSetParameter
Using AudioUnitScheduleParameter
  PASS

Test MIDI
  PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
AU VALIDATION SUCCEEDED.
--------------------------------------------------


validation result: successfully validated

updating properties of AU smartEQlive by sonible…done.

This is a good example why I say that those validation routines are pretty much useless, and a complete waste of time. Here is an example of a plug-in with bad behavior that passes AU validation. So, what's the point of it again?

OTOH, it already happened to me too that perfectly OK plug-ins crashed validation, but after enforced worked OK in the host. And plug-ins that take a LOOOONG time to validate, yet, thet are perfectly OK.

Sorry I can't help you.

stratum · Post by **stratum** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:16 am

plexuss wrote:
It will work in Logic if I create a new user and run it from there. So it seems like something in my user files is making it not work.
.

If you move all your files to the new account it may continue to work.

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:21 am

stratum wrote:
plexuss wrote:
It will work in Logic if I create a new user and run it from there. So it seems like something in my user files is making it not work.
.
If you move all your files to the new account it may continue to work.

... or if you move the essential file from the new account to the old one... Problem is: which!?

Could also be that one of the files has the wrong ownership. Who knows what's wrong.

But if it works on the new account, then the easiest fix might be to keep on using that account and ditch the old one.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:01 pm

BertKoor wrote:
stratum wrote:
plexuss wrote:
It will work in Logic if I create a new user and run it from there. So it seems like something in my user files is making it not work.
.
If you move all your files to the new account it may continue to work.
... or if you move the essential file from the new account to the old one... Problem is: which!?

Could also be that one of the files has the wrong ownership. Who knows what's wrong.

But if it works on the new account, then the easiest fix might be to keep on using that account and ditch the old one.

Ditching the old one may cause problems accessing Apple Store and things like that, though (unless you can associate your Apple User ID to the new account, which sometimes is not an easy task)

mystran · Post by **mystran** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:49 pm

fmr wrote: This is a good example why I say that those validation routines are pretty much useless, and a complete waste of time. Here is an example of a plug-in with bad behavior that passes AU validation. So, what's the point of it again?

You need to implement a few properties semi-properly (eg. class info, stream format..) and then just return "noErr" (without any actual implementation) for a bunch of others.. and then in your rendering method you check for the maxFrames that has to fail (and then return "noErr" .. there's no need to pull inputs or do render notifications or any of that). That's about enough to pass auval... and you need several times more AU specific wrapper code to actually have a chance of getting a plugin working in any host.

So.. like.. passing auval means nil.

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:43 pm

Is there any way from the debug info to figure out what file(s) might be causing problems? I do think there was a big permissions issue with OS - I updated to Sierra by over-writing my previous OS (can't recall the name, the one before Sierra). I didn't do a clean install, just the update. But I had ongoing little issues that I felt were perhaps related to a permissions screw up - just my intuition telling me this after 37 years of working with apple products.

I thought that doing a complete clean install might help but no. so it's something in my user account. I just don't know what to look for.

It's odd that VOX will opn smartEQlive ok but so far my other audio apps don't. That might be a clue.

stratum · Post by **stratum** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:21 pm

Have you tried fixing file permissions? https://support.apple.com/en-us/ht203538

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:27 pm

stratum wrote:Have you tried fixing file permissions? https://support.apple.com/en-us/ht203538

Interesting you should mention this. After my post below I went snooping around the interwebs again and found this https://eclecticlight.co/2017/06/15/som ... rmissions/

I plan to try this after my time machine backup ends. After the clean reinstall and restore I am doing a fresh backup of my machine, 4.2T. This will take about 4 days to complete and I am 1/2 way through. After that I will try this process for repairing permissions.

I hate Apple. Steve Jobs be damned.

stratum · Post by **stratum** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:30 pm

plexuss wrote: I hate Apple. Steve Jobs be damned.

I'm not sure if it's his fault, but since a DAW might be loading many plugins at startup any plugin might screw up things by corrupting the process memory unless every plugin runs in an isolated environment, and this may cause an unrelated and otherwise bug-free plugin to crash the DAW. Not very likely, but possible.

Problem with AU crashing Logic X