KVR Audio

meloco_go · Post by **meloco_go** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:18 pm

Can anyone try to make something akin to Cooper Time Cube with this?

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:22 pm

meloco_go wrote:Can anyone try to make something akin to Cooper Time Cube with this?

Got any sound files? All I know is that UA modeled the Time Cube, and apparently it was used on the vocals in "Tell Me Something Good":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB4JDJiet5M

Sean Costello

meloco_go · Post by **meloco_go** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:46 pm

There's an example here http://www.gearslutz.com/board/gear-sho ... mples.html

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:30 pm

A quick Time Cube emulation:

<ValhallaUberMod pluginVersion="1.0.0" presetName="TimeCubist" Mix="0.5" Depth="0.169" StereoWidth="0.5" Delay="0.0450000018" Feedback="0" Spread="1" Slope="1" Skew="0.404000014" Random="0.0680000037" TapGain="0.5" Diffusion="0.5" DiffSize="0.0204081628" DiffModRate="0.0490490496" DiffModDepth="0.5" LowCut="0.0603015088" HighCut="0.516080379" SpatialXover="0.145728648" DetuneRate="0.0490490496" DetuneDepth="0.5" VibratoRate="0.298245579" VibratoDepth="0" OverMod="0" DriveInGain="0.375" DriveOutGain="0.75" DriveNoiseGain="0.333333343" FeedbackRotate="0.5" SmoothingTime="0.0990990996" ColorMode="1" DelaySync="0" type="0.125" DiffEnable="0" Drive="0" DrivePrePost="1" Speed="1"/>

I based it on some research by David Berners:

http://www.uaudio.com/blog/wiggly-frequ ... -time-cube

The idea is that there are a few low level echos in the signal, besides the main delay. These echos aren't high enough volume to be audible as discrete echos, but they add comb filtering to the signal. I emulated this by using a mode that has several taps (Super Six), setting TAPS Spread for 100%, and Slope to 100%. This results in the most audible echo being at 1/3rd of the delay setting, with quieter echos at 2/3rd and 3/3rds delay times. I also set the WARP Speed to 1/2X, to cut out high frequencies, as the Time Cube seems to have a sharp cutoff above 10 kHz. TAPS Skew is used to create a slight delay difference between left and right channels.

Sean Costello

meloco_go · Post by **meloco_go** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:44 pm

Thanks! Nice stereo sound!

CS80 · Post by **CS80** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:55 pm

Bronto Scorpio wrote:
valhallasound wrote:All of the above have their inspiration in various "vintage" boxes, but got combined and recombined as I saw fit. I'm a historian when it comes to signal processing, but I also take a postmodern approach. The past is a place to take inspiration from, but it isn't like the audio industry reached some Platonic ideal a few decades ago. Emulating the past in precise detail doesn't really interest me, and I'm not aiming for strict emulations with any of the ÜberMod modes. I'd rather take the good ideas, mix them up with my own good ideas, and create some crazy chimera of a plugin that leaves the realms of sanity behind.
+1
I wish more developers would think like that

Cheers
Dennis

Double Cheers

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:00 am

OK, this is the sort of sound I like. Run a monosynth through this:

<ValhallaUberMod pluginVersion="1.0.0" presetName="SlowChord" Mix="1" Depth="1" StereoWidth="0" Delay="0" Feedback="0.00700000022" Spread="0.0120000001" Slope="0.5" Skew="0.5" Random="0" TapGain="0.5" Diffusion="0.523999989" DiffSize="1" DiffModRate="0.277277291" DiffModDepth="0.523999989" LowCut="0" HighCut="0.400000006" SpatialXover="0.130653262" DetuneRate="0.404404402" DetuneDepth="1" VibratoRate="0.234085217" VibratoDepth="0.216000006" OverMod="0.224242419" DriveInGain="0.375" DriveOutGain="0.75" DriveNoiseGain="0.333333343" FeedbackRotate="0.5" SmoothingTime="0.0990990996" ColorMode="0" DelaySync="0.0588235296" type="0.25" DiffEnable="1" Drive="0" DrivePrePost="1" Speed="1"/>

I'm using Diva as I type this. I need to try it with guitar->MF-101 and Monotribe next.

Sean Costello

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:24 am

Did you say guitar?

http://www.box.com/s/in1otjy0rsu75pevha8b

And a little help from a really good reverb, not telling which one though

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:05 am

hibidy wrote:Did you say guitar?

http://www.box.com/s/in1otjy0rsu75pevha8b

And a little help from a really good reverb, not telling which one though

Sounds like a My Bloody Valentine song about to start up. Good stuff.

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:28 am

hibidy wrote:Did you say guitar?

http://www.box.com/s/in1otjy0rsu75pevha8b

And a little help from a really good reverb, not telling which one though

Sounds amazing

Cheers
Dennis

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:40 am

Bronto Scorpio wrote:
hibidy wrote:Did you say guitar?

http://www.box.com/s/in1otjy0rsu75pevha8b

And a little help from a really good reverb, not telling which one though
Sounds amazing

Cheers
Dennis

It's hilariously simple. Add instance of amplitube (no fx, just the amp sim), something clean, add ubermod with the preset Sean posted, add a buss with one of the cathedrals in valhallaroom. Play single note then the fifth of that...move to taste

Ubermod, the fx that can do everything. I might as well ditch all my synths

jensa · Post by **jensa** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:11 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
hibidy wrote:Did you say guitar?

http://www.box.com/s/in1otjy0rsu75pevha8b

And a little help from a really good reverb, not telling which one though
Sounds like a My Bloody Valentine song about to start up. Good stuff.

Awesome! Hmmmm. I think I'll borrow this preset for my grand plan.

jensa · Post by **jensa** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:37 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
hibidy wrote:Did you say guitar?

http://www.box.com/s/in1otjy0rsu75pevha8b

And a little help from a really good reverb, not telling which one though
Sounds like a My Bloody Valentine song about to start up. Good stuff.

Awesome! Hmmmm. I think I'll borrow this preset for my grand plan.

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:48 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
hibidy wrote:Did you say guitar?

http://www.box.com/s/in1otjy0rsu75pevha8b

And a little help from a really good reverb, not telling which one though
Sounds like a My Bloody Valentine song about to start up. Good stuff.

Nice work! (I linked to the file over at GearSlutz, btw).

Sean Costello

heffus · Post by **heffus** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:04 pm

hibidy wrote:
Bronto Scorpio wrote:
hibidy wrote:Did you say guitar?

http://www.box.com/s/in1otjy0rsu75pevha8b

And a little help from a really good reverb, not telling which one though
Sounds amazing

Cheers
Dennis
It's hilariously simple. Add instance of amplitube (no fx, just the amp sim), something clean, add ubermod with the preset Sean posted, add a buss with one of the cathedrals in valhallaroom. Play single note then the fifth of that...move to taste

Ubermod, the fx that can do everything. I might as well ditch all my synths

Brilliant. Thanks for sharing. I could play this all day!

ValhallaÜberMod