LUFS Meter Plugin

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tylercassidy
KVRer
10 posts since 3 Jan, 2017 from Canada

Post Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:19 pm

Any suggestions on a decent LUFS meter plugin (w/ VST support) that doesn't break the bank like some other offerings (*cough* Insight). Thanks!

-Tyler


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Lesha
KVRian
1373 posts since 18 Feb, 2005 from Serbia

Re: LUFS Meter Plugin

Post Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:55 pm

It's easy if you know how

Compyfox
KVRAF
14247 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany

Re: LUFS Meter Plugin

Post Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:13 pm

For completeness sake:

http://www.grimmaudio.com/pro-products/ ... velview-s/
http://www.tcelectronic.com/lmn/
http://www.nugenaudio.com/vislm-loudnes ... -au-vst_11
http://www.nugenaudio.com/mastercheck-p ... -au-vst_41
http://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/dpmeter2.html (warning, triple check with other meters for accuracy)


Standalone there is still Pinguin Audio and PAS Products.



I can recommend (the best there currently is):

Freeware:
Youlean Loudness Meter (highly versatile and customizable)
Currently nothing in the freeware market beats this release

Budget:
ToneBoosters EBU Loudness (has many presets, no custom reference level - highly affordable for mere 20EUR)

MidRange:
Definitely Grimm Audio, tc.electronic and Nugen Audio (as they were the forerunners of the "EBU R-128 movement")



BONUS INFO:
EBU R-128, like ATSC-85, is a preset built upon the ITU-R BS.1770-x specs. So if you look for something versatile, look for an ITU-R BS.1770-x spec meter that is highly customizable

- Steinberg's Loudness Meter is discontinued and only worked in Steinberg hosts
- VUMT2 Deluxe makes it technically possible to show ITU-R BS.1770-1 MLk (accurate to the test stream, offsets for music might happen), but not SLk
- the HOFA 4U "Meter" is bit hard to "understand"
- Not too fond of MLoudnessMeter (too limited)

- If you use Logic X, there is a Loudness Meter built in
- if you use Cubase 7 and up, there is an EBU R-128 Loudness Meter built in (relative scale, no custom reference level - at least not up until C8, have yet to dive into C9)



Want to know more about ITU-R BS.1770-x metering, dig into my KVRMarks (see my sig)
Last edited by Compyfox on Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:26 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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dblock
KVRAF
2066 posts since 25 Feb, 2005

Re: LUFS Meter Plugin

Post Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:05 am

Klangfreund - LUFS Meter. Set the LUFS to what you want.
I think the non-commercial version is $24 and non-commecial is $49.
I just put one instance on my mix buss at the end.

.jon
KVRAF
5484 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki

Re: LUFS Meter Plugin

Post Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:03 am

MLoudnessAnalyzer:

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padillac
KVRian
569 posts since 27 Nov, 2011

Re: LUFS Meter Plugin

Post Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:43 pm

Hornet LU meter - https://www.hornetplugins.com/plugins/hornet-lu-meter/

Meyer, auto gain, peak limit (max peak a/ auto gain, not a limiter)

5 EUR!!

Compyfox
KVRAF
14247 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany

Re: LUFS Meter Plugin

Post Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:02 am

padillac wrote:Hornet LU meter - https://www.hornetplugins.com/plugins/hornet-lu-meter/

Meyer, auto gain, peak limit (max peak a/ auto gain, not a limiter)

5 EUR!!
Just got this confirmed by the developer (now pointed out on the product page as well):
- ballistics: 400ms (so Momentary Loudness)
- does not do "summing", metering is "channel individual" - therefore not ITU-R BS.1770-x compliant loudness measurement
- aside from internal digital peak measurement, no other measurement types



TL;DR:
Not an "LUFS meter" per se - but rather a proof of concept
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Winstontaneous
KVRian
1384 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Berkeley, CA

Re: LUFS Meter Plugin

Post Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:40 pm

Do any of these let you copy/paste or save results of loudness analysis?
That's one feature I really like about Adobe Audition CC loudness tool.

Compyfox
KVRAF
14247 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany

Re: LUFS Meter Plugin

Post Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:58 pm

Do you mean like a histogram or just highlight the numeric value and then hit CTRL+C?

To be honest, I never dove into that territory... but isn't Adobe Audition's Loudness Tool basically from tc.electronic? Meaning LMn2 in "lite"? I seem to remember that.
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Endor-8o8
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866 posts since 29 Apr, 2012 from Paris

Re: LUFS Meter Plugin

Post Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:30 pm

+1 for Nugen VISLM !
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simon.a.billington
KVRian
1410 posts since 12 Nov, 2014

Re: LUFS Meter Plugin

Post Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:16 pm

iZotope Insight, but that's bloody expensive.

Then there is Waves WLM and Brainworx bx_meter, which are much cheaper when on sale

Compyfox
KVRAF
14247 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany

Re: LUFS Meter Plugin

Post Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:43 pm

Brainworx bx_meter has a k-weighting filter, but is NOT a ITU-R BS.1770-x spec "LUFS meter"
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ghettosynth
KVRAF
11097 posts since 13 Oct, 2009

Re: LUFS Meter Plugin

Post Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:08 pm

simon.a.billington wrote:iZotope Insight, but that's bloody expensive.

Then there is Waves WLM and Brainworx bx_meter, which are much cheaper when on sale
It's dirt cheap if you buy it as part of their production bundle though.

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KVRian
1384 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Berkeley, CA

Re: LUFS Meter Plugin

Post Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:34 pm

Compyfox wrote:Do you mean like a histogram or just highlight the numeric value and then hit CTRL+C?

To be honest, I never dove into that territory... but isn't Adobe Audition's Loudness Tool basically from tc.electronic? Meaning LMn2 in "lite"? I seem to remember that.
Thanks for your response, with Audition CC's "Copy All" I can capture the elements below. It's been very helpful as I'm "mastering" the first album I ever released which has serious volume mismatches between tracks. The stats pretty much match my aural perception. I've pasted the results in a spreadsheet to compare with commercial tracks I find impactful.

You're right, Audition uses tc electronic's Loudness Radar. I've yet to use it, the specs I'm referring to come from the Amplitude Statistics section.

Peak Amplitude:
True Peak Amplitude:
Maximum Sample Value:
Minimum Sample Value:
Possibly Clipped Samples:
Total RMS Amplitude:
Maximum RMS Amplitude:
Minimum RMS Amplitude:
Average RMS Amplitude:
DC Offset:
Measured Bit Depth:
Dynamic Range:
Dynamic Range Used:
Loudness (Legacy):
Perceived Loudness (Legacy):
ITU-R BS.1770-3 Loudness: -19.76 LUFS

0dB = FS Square Wave
Using RMS Window of 50.00 ms
Account for DC = true

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