Should work with some of the newer Keith Mcmillen controllers. You can run over them with a car!ere2learn wrote:Only have a horse,might try it though
Automatic MIDI generator?
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.
- KVRAF
- 2231 posts since 23 May, 2005 from West Country, UK
Great list! I know about most of them (and have some of them) but there were some new ones there.Kalamata Kid wrote:My Notes on Generative, Improvisation, Composing, Chord progression
Sorry, it it a bit chaotic.
Some items may not apply
...
Nodal is a personal favourite (very much doubt that there will ever be a version 2 though) and Stochas has become my default sequencer/piano roll in Bidule.
Noatikl I have but have never loved.
There are a few new ones to look at now. Thanks.
If you want something more random, though the output is actually quite controllable and can be further teased into something more traditional with a chorder or scale plugin or device, then encoderaudio.com has some incredible and powerful M4L devices (Buchla clones on steroids):
http://www.encoderaudio.com/control.html
Another new favourite is Coldcut's Midivolve: https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/midivolve/
While we're in the Ableton store, Patter is very good too: https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/patter/
There are several other interesting M4L devices out there.
Lastly there is always !Epoch: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=454461
Being of no musical ability whatsoever I love this stuff
- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
Interesting plugin, but for me it crashes after 3 scanned instruments (same everytime). And I can't contact the developer through their website because their contact form gives me an error.geqfreq wrote:https://beta.midimadnesssoftware.com/midi-madness-3
i9-10900K | 128GB DDR4 | RTX 3090 | Arturia AudioFuse/KeyLab mkII/SparkLE | PreSonus ATOM/ATOM SQ | Studio One | Reason | Bitwig Studio | Reaper | Renoise | FL Studio | ~900 VSTs | 300+ REs
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- KVRAF
- 4506 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle
I'm having the same crashing issues in Ableton Live 9.7 on Mac OS Sierra, looks like it will be cool though.starflakeprj wrote:Interesting plugin, but for me it crashes after 3 scanned instruments (same everytime). And I can't contact the developer through their website because their contact form gives me an error.geqfreq wrote:https://beta.midimadnesssoftware.com/midi-madness-3
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- KVRian
- 826 posts since 25 Aug, 2006
http://reglos.de/musinum/
From the website:
"MusiNum is a free sonification program which turns numbers into generative fractal music. Everybody can create unique royalty free music for his homepage within few minutes. Interesting for mathematicans and other people who like to play. Fractal concepts, self-similarity and a new kind of symmetry are audible now!
It'sFreeware! The current version is 2.08 (Beta), released at Oct-19-1999. It will run on Windows 2.x, 3.x, 9x, ME, NTx, 2000, XP and Vista, but sadly no more on Windows 7 and Windows 8 because Microsoft dropped the support for old 16Bit software."
From the website:
"MusiNum is a free sonification program which turns numbers into generative fractal music. Everybody can create unique royalty free music for his homepage within few minutes. Interesting for mathematicans and other people who like to play. Fractal concepts, self-similarity and a new kind of symmetry are audible now!
It'sFreeware! The current version is 2.08 (Beta), released at Oct-19-1999. It will run on Windows 2.x, 3.x, 9x, ME, NTx, 2000, XP and Vista, but sadly no more on Windows 7 and Windows 8 because Microsoft dropped the support for old 16Bit software."
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- KVRAF
- 5811 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
In that case I should again look at Nodal. Not sure if there is a need for Stochas.lnikj wrote:Great list! I know about most of them (and have some of them) but there were some new ones there.Kalamata Kid wrote:My Notes on Generative, Improvisation, Composing, Chord progression
Sorry, it it a bit chaotic.
Some items may not apply
...
Nodal is a personal favourite (very much doubt that there will ever be a version 2 though) and Stochas has become my default sequencer/piano roll in Bidule.
Noatikl I have but have never loved.
There are a few new ones to look at now. Thanks.
If you want something more random, though the output is actually quite controllable and can be further teased into something more traditional with a chorder or scale plugin or device, then encoderaudio.com has some incredible and powerful M4L devices (Buchla clones on steroids):
http://www.encoderaudio.com/control.html
Another new favourite is Coldcut's Midivolve: https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/midivolve/
While we're in the Ableton store, Patter is very good too: https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/patter/
There are several other interesting M4L devices out there.
Lastly there is always !Epoch: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=454461
Being of no musical ability whatsoever I love this stuff
I had concerns about Noatikl. It seems difficult to learn. I will move that to the bottom of my list to try.
I do not have Live so will ignore the M4L plugins. Wish that Max was available for other DAW's
Epoch, could not find a link.
My Studio: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=7777146#p7777146
- KVRAF
- 2231 posts since 23 May, 2005 from West Country, UK
Not released yet! Promised later this year ... and the year before ... and the year before that ...Kalamata Kid wrote:
Epoch, could not find a link.
That said, when it does drop, it promises to be the most advanced midi environment ever invented. If a PhD is not required to use it then it has the possibility of rendering everything else redundant.
Some early screenshots:
viewtopic.php?f=141&t=341953&start=930
viewtopic.php?f=141&t=341953&start=1050
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- KVRAF
- 5691 posts since 24 May, 2004 from []1
stochas is $29 now
amazing tool is Cracklefield by SzcZ at fairlyconfusing.net
amazing tool is Cracklefield by SzcZ at fairlyconfusing.net
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- KVRAF
- 4506 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle
Stochas is showing as 40 gbp for me, where are you getting that price?Musical Gym wrote:stochas is $29 now
amazing tool is Cradklefield by SzcZ at fairlyconfusing.net
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- KVRAF
- 5691 posts since 24 May, 2004 from []1
My apology, I was thinking of Kamelono which is being sold for $29 instead of $59. It's still under development but is showing a lot of promise. I got stochas not too long ago and really like it also. To me, it's worth at least 40 gbp.simmo75 wrote:Stochas is showing as 40 gbp for me, where are you getting that price?Musical Gym wrote:stochas is $29 now
amazing tool is Cradklefield by SzcZ at fairlyconfusing.net
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- KVRAF
- 4506 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle
I've been looking at Stochas as well as Wavedna liquid music. I like the way liquid music works with Ableton Live.Musical Gym wrote:My apology, I was thinking of Kamelono which is being sold for $29 instead of $59. It's still under development but is showing a lot of promise. I got stochas not too long ago and really like it also. To me, it's worth at least 40 gbp.simmo75 wrote:Stochas is showing as 40 gbp for me, where are you getting that price?Musical Gym wrote:stochas is $29 now
amazing tool is Cradklefield by SzcZ at fairlyconfusing.net
Is There drag and drop midi in Stochas and way to completely start a random pattern without drawing?
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- KVRAF
- 5691 posts since 24 May, 2004 from []1
From my experience, drag and drop midi to Stochas didn't work. I don't see any auto-generation of random patterns. Best to download user guide and demo and watch the videos. Randomization happens after you tell Stochas what parameters within which to choose values. You may or may not feel comfortable with the workflow since it's fairly unique.simmo75 wrote:Is There drag and drop midi in Stochas and way to completely start a random pattern without drawing?
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- KVRAF
- 4506 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle
Thanks for your help!Musical Gym wrote:From my experience, drag and drop midi to Stochas didn't work. I don't see any auto-generation of random patterns. Best to download user guide and demo and watch the videos. Randomization happens after you tell Stochas what parameters within which to choose values. You may or may not feel comfortable with the workflow since it's fairly unique.simmo75 wrote:Is There drag and drop midi in Stochas and way to completely start a random pattern without drawing?
Do you have any experience with WaveDna Liquid Music or sundog?
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- KVRAF
- 5691 posts since 24 May, 2004 from []1
You're welcome.
I have both. Sundog is great and keeps getting better; Hauke, the developer, is also great. You can download demo version.
For some reason, I don't seem to use Liquid Music much, but it's a deep tool if you have the will to learn it. It's a bit of a different animal compared to other auto-composition tools, so you may or may not take to it. It has a great song structure building system and I will go back to it at some point. I think the developer used a lot of hit tunes from the past to base the templates on, so you could get an education on how to build/rebuild songs that were successful.
I have both. Sundog is great and keeps getting better; Hauke, the developer, is also great. You can download demo version.
For some reason, I don't seem to use Liquid Music much, but it's a deep tool if you have the will to learn it. It's a bit of a different animal compared to other auto-composition tools, so you may or may not take to it. It has a great song structure building system and I will go back to it at some point. I think the developer used a lot of hit tunes from the past to base the templates on, so you could get an education on how to build/rebuild songs that were successful.