I'm new in the field of using transient shaper and have some questions:
1) Which Transient Shaper are state of the art in 2020?
2) Which TS do you use?
3) I never feel good to use TS on a drum-buss when I want to sculpt drums (in an non-creative) way. I would assume a TS is always better to use on single-tracks. How do you see this?
Transient Shaper. State in 2020 and usage in general
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- Banned
- 1792 posts since 8 Sep, 2019 from Calenberg
1) Eventide Physion
2) Eventide Physion
3) Yes
2) Eventide Physion
3) Yes
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1018 posts since 27 Mar, 2013
Is there an non-ILock equivalent to Eventide Physion?
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- Banned
- 1792 posts since 8 Sep, 2019 from Calenberg
No
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- KVRAF
- 4589 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
iZotope Neutron 3 replaced NI Transient Master for me. 3-band split is the key here. Now I use it on pretty much every track.
And yes.
And yes.
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- KVRAF
- 8087 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
1) Don't know, but what I have is good enough for me
2) NI Transient Master, Bitwig Transient Control, and compressors in general
3) It probably depends. I don't do drums that much.
2) NI Transient Master, Bitwig Transient Control, and compressors in general
3) It probably depends. I don't do drums that much.
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- KVRist
- 489 posts since 25 Aug, 2016 from Helsinki, Finland
I'm mostly using Transgressor 2, its only fault is that it's threshold-based. When I need level-independent transient shaping or saturating (only) transients, I'm using Couture. Both have features I haven't seen in any other transient shaper. Separate EQs for transient & sustain parts for Transgressor 2, and transient saturation for Couture.
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- KVRAF
- 6780 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
1. iZotope Neutron, Softube Transient, Oeksound Spiff, probably some others
2. Neutron, until i sell MPS3. Then probably Softube or Spiff. i sometimes use Voxengo Transgainer as well.
3. Neutron multiband is good on buses. Else, i prefer multiband operation on single tracks.
2. Neutron, until i sell MPS3. Then probably Softube or Spiff. i sometimes use Voxengo Transgainer as well.
3. Neutron multiband is good on buses. Else, i prefer multiband operation on single tracks.
I agree. I'd love to buy only Neutron3 Transient shaper. Everything else from MPS3 I barely use (sans VocalSynth). But it seems pointless to keep MPS3. for transient shaper only...DJ Warmonger wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 11:20 am iZotope Neutron 3 replaced NI Transient Master for me. 3-band split is the key here. Now I use it on pretty much every track.
And yes.
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- KVRist
- 196 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
I'm not sure there's a lot of difference between the many transient shapers on the market. That said, the Kilohearts transient shaper is my go-to because it has a "pump" parameter that optionally ducks the signal after the transient, giving it more punch without adding volume. Also, if you have Multipass, you get multiband transient shaping.
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- KVRian
- 532 posts since 29 Jul, 2009 from San Diego, CA
Sonnox Envolution is one of the best I've heard for full drum buss shaping. Not cheap though.
For individual instruments, I like NI Transient Master, SPL Transient Plus, or KiloHearts Transient. Can't go wrong with any of these.
For individual instruments, I like NI Transient Master, SPL Transient Plus, or KiloHearts Transient. Can't go wrong with any of these.
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- KVRAF
- 4720 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
The Neutron one is awesome. And for special duties check out Auburn Sound's Couture which is currently only $19.
Might try the Kilohearts one with my voucher. They make good sounding, low-CPU, easy to use stuff.
Might try the Kilohearts one with my voucher. They make good sounding, low-CPU, easy to use stuff.
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- KVRian
- 874 posts since 28 Nov, 2016
1) the elysia nvelope is spectacular. it was made by the company of the guy who invented the first transient shaper and it is the state of the art.
2) i use it. (i use it on mixanalog.com)
3) i think in fact a good transient shaper CAN be used on a drum bus because ideally it will coast over transients that are too close together, not artificially pumping up the individual spikes, you know? it'll only sharpen the transients which 'stick out' instead of making everything an ultra-staccato nightmare. that is what i think.
2) i use it. (i use it on mixanalog.com)
3) i think in fact a good transient shaper CAN be used on a drum bus because ideally it will coast over transients that are too close together, not artificially pumping up the individual spikes, you know? it'll only sharpen the transients which 'stick out' instead of making everything an ultra-staccato nightmare. that is what i think.
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- KVRAF
- 4583 posts since 12 Jan, 2019
I have Transgressor 2, SPL Transient Designer Plus, Neutron Elements. And I find myself using Ableton's drum buss more than any of them. Still, they each sound different, so sometimes I try several.
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Distorted Horizon Distorted Horizon https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=392076 - Banned
- 3878 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats
1. Doesn't matter
2. Doesn't matter
3. Doesn't matter
Usually I use the one with the DAW, on what ever I like.
2. Doesn't matter
3. Doesn't matter
Usually I use the one with the DAW, on what ever I like.
