Do you buss your Kick with Bass or with Drums?
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- KVRAF
- 1631 posts since 10 Oct, 2018
I only use one bus; the stereo bus. I also don't use automation either. Just saying it's up to the producer; there are no written rules. But keep in mind that most producer tricks are about compensation. The more one compensates, the more compensation skills one needs to learn. Things quickly can become one big mess that way.
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- KVRAF
- 4712 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
At all - ever?
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- KVRAF
- 1631 posts since 10 Oct, 2018
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- KVRAF
- 2024 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London
I buss mine with the bass because they occupy the same octave range and this makes more sense to me than grouping with the rest of the drums which are much higher up the spectrum, generally speaking.
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- KVRist
- 57 posts since 1 Jun, 2019
My default workflow is to buss all drum sounds together to control and process them as a kit, but I might take the kick out and put it with the bass to meld them together with (fairly transparent) clipping or bouncy compression, especially if I’m doing 4x4 stuff.
Mostly I make drum & bass and a lot of the sidechaining needs to be as transparent as possible. For the sidechaining effect I just put a volume shaper on the bass buss. (And music buss.)
I will buss together kick layers and same with snare and then send them to drum buss. As with the overall drum mix it makes for easier level balancing and common colouring.
Best tip I can give is to stick a clipper on the master and push it until it’s obviously distorting, and work from there to see how much distortion you can get rid of. It will become clear which sounds need to be adjusted when you smash the mix. Can also do this with a limiter if you prefer.
Mostly I make drum & bass and a lot of the sidechaining needs to be as transparent as possible. For the sidechaining effect I just put a volume shaper on the bass buss. (And music buss.)
I will buss together kick layers and same with snare and then send them to drum buss. As with the overall drum mix it makes for easier level balancing and common colouring.
Best tip I can give is to stick a clipper on the master and push it until it’s obviously distorting, and work from there to see how much distortion you can get rid of. It will become clear which sounds need to be adjusted when you smash the mix. Can also do this with a limiter if you prefer.
- KVRAF
- 1803 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
Really depends on what is needed.
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- KVRAF
- 7874 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
Mostly I put all drums together (if I use a group at all) and compress them together. Bass on its own.
As for sidechaining - it's a fad. It works for some and good luck to them, but it's not essential for anything. I'd hoped that awful fad for ducking whole tracks with the kick had died - plenty of songs were ruined with it. EDM and anything else does not NEED it. You have the option, but it's just that - an option.
As for having 3 basslines - oh please...
As for sidechaining - it's a fad. It works for some and good luck to them, but it's not essential for anything. I'd hoped that awful fad for ducking whole tracks with the kick had died - plenty of songs were ruined with it. EDM and anything else does not NEED it. You have the option, but it's just that - an option.
As for having 3 basslines - oh please...
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- Banned
- 1780 posts since 26 Aug, 2012
You recent 2021 commenters forgot to get in your time machines and go back to 2015
- KVRist
- 60 posts since 19 Apr, 2021
I usually group my drums together and run them through a Bus Comp. Depends on the sound I want though.r4ndom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:39 am Hey guys, just wondering if you prefer to compress and process your kicks with your basses or with your other drums?
Is it ever processed both ways? For example does anybody ever send their kick and bass to a buss, process that but then also route their kick to another buss for drums? If so, how does this not mess up the sound?
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- KVRist
- 60 posts since 19 Apr, 2021
- KVRist
- 483 posts since 17 Sep, 2020
How do these people actually find these necro threads. Hm..
- KVRAF
- 5405 posts since 20 Mar, 2012 from Babbleon
no i don't do all that.
i didn't even get a kick riding the bus.
people get sea sickness, i get bus sickness.
but thanks to covid, i ain't ever riding the bus again.
i didn't even get a kick riding the bus.
people get sea sickness, i get bus sickness.
but thanks to covid, i ain't ever riding the bus again.
ah böwakawa poussé poussé
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- KVRAF
- 1742 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
6 busses in my music. Kick, all drums, bass, vocals, backing vocals and synths. All sit on pretty much different fundamental frequencies so treat them different. My method anyway.
I wonder what happens if I press this button...