Gibson axes Cakewalk /Sonar
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- KVRist
- 168 posts since 18 Oct, 2017
You wonder what he's planning to do with that guitar.
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- KVRAF
- 2265 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
SJ_Digriz wrote:all that because he couldn't find the monitor button? I'd love to see him use Reaper ...
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
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- KVRAF
- 2677 posts since 20 Jun, 2012
Watched some of his other videos. This guy is f*ckin' hilarious!
No signature here!
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- KVRist
- 41 posts since 27 Aug, 2016
The guy is hilarious !!!robotmonkey wrote:Watched some of his other videos. This guy is f*ckin' hilarious!
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- KVRist
- 470 posts since 25 Aug, 2016 from Helsinki, Finland
You don't have to guess, Moody's downgraded their rating again a few months ago. Not looking good for Gibson. https://www.moodys.com/research/Moodys- ... -PR_371298GreyLion wrote:Interesting! Thanks for the link, ZQ.Zombie Queen wrote:https://www.ericgarland.co/2016/09/27/g ... ng-moodys/
Gives you an estimate on how long the activation servers will be up.
And -- the article is more than a year old. My bet is that things have gotten worse since then, not better.
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- KVRAF
- 3245 posts since 21 May, 2004 from Deep in the Heart of Texas
From the report, it looks like some third party is going to have to ride to Gibson's rescue with a huge infusion of cash within the next half year. If not, they're dead. I can't imagine that anybody with that kind of money would rather give Gibson's incompetent management more time to continue to fail at their jobs, rather than hang around and acquire the bits and pieces for much, much less. I can see Gibson Guitars being resuscitated on a smaller scale, just because the brand is iconic. Cakewalk, not so much.ilmai wrote:You don't have to guess, Moody's downgraded their rating again a few months ago. Not looking good for Gibson. https://www.moodys.com/research/Moodys- ... -PR_371298
- KVRAF
- 6095 posts since 5 Jul, 2001 from Just about .... there
He's one of the reasons it's so hard to take 99% of the "<insert any program name here> is a buggy piece of shit" posts seriously. It's inordinately weighted to ID ten T errors. I've seen numbers from help desks where the analysis was something like 90% authentication errors (user locked himself out, or didn't take an action that he/she was notified to take, forgot password etc..) 9.999% user didn't understand how to do what it is they were trying to do. .001 bug reported to dev team. This was out of a few million calls or so. Out of the bugs .. the vast majority were trivial, cosmetic or OBE.
I'm not saying software doesn't have bugs by the way, just that the user experience is grossly skewed in the reporting.
For example on the Cubase forum some user is indicating a showstopper thing in 9.5 so he can't upgrade.. which is just a feature he doesn't understand ... it also works correctly .. and it will even work the way he wants if he sets a setting... yet he argues for post after post that it's broken. EDIT: and of course he's called Borg developers and anyone pointing this out idiots.
I'm not saying software doesn't have bugs by the way, just that the user experience is grossly skewed in the reporting.
For example on the Cubase forum some user is indicating a showstopper thing in 9.5 so he can't upgrade.. which is just a feature he doesn't understand ... it also works correctly .. and it will even work the way he wants if he sets a setting... yet he argues for post after post that it's broken. EDIT: and of course he's called Borg developers and anyone pointing this out idiots.
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer
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- KVRAF
- 2265 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
...so you are saying Sonar is not buggy?
I think it was illuminating when a beta tester said in this thread that when projects were getting large, unreproducible and seemingly random bugs started to appear.
In case it is in fact a stable host, then I am actually considering installing Sonar Home Studio from CM, as a backup host for times when my main host doesn't recognise some VST plugin. (Is this a bad thing? I reckon the audio handling and mixing parts must be very good even in Home Studio and as far as I understand it allows for VST plugins.)
I think it was illuminating when a beta tester said in this thread that when projects were getting large, unreproducible and seemingly random bugs started to appear.
In case it is in fact a stable host, then I am actually considering installing Sonar Home Studio from CM, as a backup host for times when my main host doesn't recognise some VST plugin. (Is this a bad thing? I reckon the audio handling and mixing parts must be very good even in Home Studio and as far as I understand it allows for VST plugins.)
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
- KVRAF
- 6095 posts since 5 Jul, 2001 from Just about .... there
I used Sonar and completed many large projects doing peoples band demos. Did it have bugs? .. sure. Were they dead center showstoppers? No. The dude in the video is delusional if he thinks its any easier to monitor a track in any other DAW. He wasn’t ranting about a bug, he was ranting about ease of use.
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer
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- KVRAF
- 2265 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
Ok thanks for clarifying. Actually I have never noticed a bug in MuLab. (Of course it must be a much smaller program than Sonar but it's impressive anyway. )SJ_Digriz wrote:I used Sonar and completed many large projects doing peoples band demos. Did it have bugs? .. sure. Were they dead center showstoppers? No.
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
- KVRAF
- 6095 posts since 5 Jul, 2001 from Just about .... there
I'm a Cubase user by the way. But, if someone brings me a Sonar project, or asks me to work in ProTools or a plethora of other DAWs, I'll just get on with it. All this "showstopper" and "Can't possibly use this" stuff is BS. I'm not even a professional, I just pretend I am on weekends and when I free time to help local bands and ensembles.SparkySpark wrote:Ok thanks for clarifying. Actually I have never noticed a bug in MuLab. (Of course it must be a much smaller program than Sonar but it's impressive anyway. )SJ_Digriz wrote:I used Sonar and completed many large projects doing peoples band demos. Did it have bugs? .. sure. Were they dead center showstoppers? No.
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer
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- KVRAF
- 2265 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
I agree with you totally: any DAW could be used to create commercial hits. We are all too spoiled (which will most likely make more DAWs disappear over the next two years or so).
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
this sky is falling thinking is getting too funny
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRist
- 342 posts since 8 Jul, 2004
Ever wonder why Izotope don't have their own DAW? Their new Spire thingy has to talk to something. I'm afraid Gibson will let it die on the vine, but would be cool if they would unload Cake on somebody--Izotope seems a good candidate.
Oh, and lest we forget, F- Gibson!
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Oh, and lest we forget, F- Gibson!
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