KVR Audio

solomute · Post by **solomute** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:07 am

If your mixes suck, it's 99% not the DAW, but you.

Prepaid trolls always try to shift the blame from the corporations to a user. You are warned!

stardustmedia · Post by **stardustmedia** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:10 am

solomute wrote:
If your mixes suck, it's 99% not the DAW, but you.
Prepaid trolls always try to shift the blame from the corporations to a user. You are warned!

Too late, I cashed already from Apple, Avid, Steinberg and Ableton. Now off to my new property, an island somewhere without internet, where my DAW sounds warmer, richer and more colorful

solomute · Post by **solomute** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:13 am

Who cares about a corporative idiot having to seat at a pc and post some lies all the day long?

stardustmedia · Post by **stardustmedia** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:29 am

solomute wrote:

Who cares about a corporative idiot having to seat at a pc and post some lies all the day long?

You do

And me as well, I need to make a living by lying for corporations all day long, since Logic distorts more than DP9.5

The_Hidden_Goose · Post by **The_Hidden_Goose** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:04 pm

My head hurts from all the face-palming

Daimonicon · Post by **Daimonicon** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:24 pm

Pro's use any DAW they're comfortable with and get the resulte their after . Amateurs debate on kvr and truly believe there's a difference between DAW's.

solomute · Post by **solomute** » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:49 pm

This is the most huge lies that all Daws sound the same. They can't sound the same because they use different algos for summing up channels. And those algos try to avoid phase cancellation at different degrees of success. That's why you should choose the best one which is DP. As for pros they buy summators and analog mixers to avoid that problem in which case all daws can sound the same since mixing is done on external hardware.

melomood · Post by **melomood** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:14 pm

solomute wrote:This is the most huge lies that all Daws sound the same. They can't sound the same because they use different algos for summing up channels. And those algos try to avoid phase cancellation at different degrees of success. That's why you should choose the best one which is DP. As for pros they buy summators and analog mixers to avoid that problem in which case all daws can sound the same since mixing is done on external hardware.

That's why I've always stuck with HammerHead Rhythm Station's MoonFish

stardustmedia · Post by **stardustmedia** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:38 pm

What a utter BS. If DAWs would do some magic hidden math about phase cancellation, you wouldn't be able go out of phase for wide sounds. Neither could you copy the same signal, phase reverse and completely remove it.

But you're right, my analog super summator judgment day does some fluffy cross talk and noise, so my ITB mixes become warm and crunchy.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:57 pm

stardustmedia wrote:... my analog super summator judgment day does some fluffy cross talk and noise, so my ITB mixes become warm and crunchy.

Googly Smythe · Post by **Googly Smythe** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:18 pm

So, when your DAW sends the 150 stereo tracks of your project through the 150 individual outputs of your audio interface into the 300 mono channels of your analog mixer - how do you render your masterpiece to an mp3 file for iTunes?

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:27 pm

Best sounding DAW? The one with the bestest prOduca ... ne'st pas?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:36 pm

solomute wrote:This is the most huge lies that all Daws sound the same. They can't sound the same because they use different algos for summing up channels. And those algos try to avoid phase cancellation at different degrees of success. That's why you should choose the best one which is DP. As for pros they buy summators and analog mixers to avoid that problem in which case all daws can sound the same since mixing is done on external hardware.

You know more than the developers of the DAW's then. https://www.image-line.com/support/FLHe ... _audio.htm

stardustmedia · Post by **stardustmedia** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:16 pm

Googly Smythe wrote:So, when your DAW sends the 150 stereo tracks of your project through the 150 individual outputs of your audio interface into the 300 mono channels of your analog mixer - how do you render your masterpiece to an mp3 file for iTunes?

I first sample it with my Akai S3000XL (songs cannot go longer than 16 MB), save it on a SCSI-disc (Barracuda, 10k RPM, 10 GB space), play it back on C1 (sample root key C3, transposed -24), record it back thru the original 97 Soundblaster (to get that lovely Pentium4 internal soundcard zirp noise) connected via Thunderbolt to my Mac running Win98 on a VM. From there directly playing thru the IAC-bus into High Sierra, going out thru the HP-out into my Zune MP3 stick.

Et voilà, MP3. Piece of cake

PS: I don't hear any differences in DAWs this way

Googly Smythe · Post by **Googly Smythe** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:29 pm

stardustmedia wrote:
Googly Smythe wrote:So, when your DAW sends the 150 stereo tracks of your project through the 150 individual outputs of your audio interface into the 300 mono channels of your analog mixer - how do you render your masterpiece to an mp3 file for iTunes?
I first sample it with my Akai S3000XL (songs cannot go longer than 16 MB), save it on a SCSI-disc (Barracuda, 10k RPM, 10 GB space), play it back on C1 (sample root key C3, transposed -24), record it back thru the original 97 Soundblaster (to get that lovely Pentium4 internal soundcard zirp noise) connected via Thunderbolt to my Mac running Win98 on a VM. From there directly playing thru the IAC-bus into High Sierra, going out thru the HP-out into my Zune MP3 stick.

Et voilà, MP3. Piece of cake

PS: I don't hear any differences in DAWs this way

All DAWS do sound alike, except Harrison Mixbus, and that's only because it is designed to sound like an Harrison mixing desk.

What is the best sounding DAW??