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Tronam · Post by **Tronam** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:25 pm

I haven't sifted through all 57 pages to see if this has already been requested, but I think it would be nice to be able to detune an OSC in Dual mode to intervals greater than a detuned semitone. It would allow for creating single OSC two note chords, most commonly in 4ths, 5ths or octaves.

lagavulin16 · Post by **lagavulin16** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:38 pm

It would be great if all your plugs could be dragged larger/smaller via the lower right hand corner the way the Logic 9 ones are. I imagine that's a hassle and could make them look ugly (stretching graphics as opposed to specific ones for each size).

Barring that, could you add a size to Zebra? If it's possible, one between "large" and "huge" would be great. Huge just barely doesn't fit on my 24" monitor and large leaves a lot of space.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:42 pm

Tronam wrote:I haven't sifted through all 57 pages to see if this has already been requested, but I think it would be nice to be able to detune an OSC in Dual mode to intervals greater than a detuned semitone. It would allow for creating single OSC two note chords, most commonly in 4ths, 5ths or octaves.

Yeah, I see what you mean... the thing is only, all multi-oscs make use of the same dynamic wavetable, hence obey to the same bandlimiting. That means, all lower notes would sound audibly filtered because otherwise the highest note would sound distorted, unless giving up all the benefits of low cpu usage (2x oversampling would be an requirement for up to +/- 6 semitones, 4x oversampling would be necessary for +/- 12 semitones).

In other words, I'm afraid of audible side effects when offering bigger intervals. I may try it though, but can neither promise if nor when

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:47 pm

lagavulin16 wrote:It would be great if all your plugs could be dragged larger/smaller via the lower right hand corner the way the Logic 9 ones are. I imagine that's a hassle and could make them look ugly (stretching graphics as opposed to specific ones for each size).

Barring that, could you add a size to Zebra? If it's possible, one between "large" and "huge" would be great. Huge just barely doesn't fit on my 24" monitor and large leaves a lot of space.

hehe, yeah... some sizes inbetween wouldn't be bad. I'm going to work on this after the next round of updates. It might involve a whole lot of extra graphics design though, which kind of makes me reluctant towards big changes...

lagavulin16 · Post by **lagavulin16** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:59 pm

Urs wrote:
lagavulin16 wrote:It would be great if all your plugs could be dragged larger/smaller via the lower right hand corner the way the Logic 9 ones are. I imagine that's a hassle and could make them look ugly (stretching graphics as opposed to specific ones for each size).

Barring that, could you add a size to Zebra? If it's possible, one between "large" and "huge" would be great. Huge just barely doesn't fit on my 24" monitor and large leaves a lot of space.
hehe, yeah... some sizes inbetween wouldn't be bad. I'm going to work on this after the next round of updates. It might involve a whole lot of extra graphics design though, which kind of makes me reluctant towards big changes...

Well, it's just a thought. I'd be much more excited by a reverse reverb/delay/tremolo component in Uhbik that can be synced to tempo.

I really haven't found a good reverse effect that can be tempo synced and give me those old my bloody valentine guitar sounds.

kodama · Post by **kodama** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:57 pm

This video details how DCAM tackles a feature request that I've bugged Urs about for a few years now. Stepping through modulation values for each key press. Mod Mapper can currently do this, but only for a set 128 steps and the interface is tiny!

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Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:29 am

kodama wrote:This video details how DCAM tackles a feature request that I've bugged Urs about for a few years now. Stepping through modulation values for each key press. Mod Mapper can currently do this, but only for a set 128 steps and the interface is tiny!

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You should try the Modmapper that comes with ACE. Big editor, variable number of steps. Same thing in Zebra soon.

kodama · Post by **kodama** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:49 am

I love you.

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:06 am

Urs wrote: Same thing in Zebra soon.

Yeah!

ModMappers are great, improving on them is even better.
Thanks.

xx JPRacer xx · Post by **xx JPRacer xx** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:19 am

kodama wrote:I love you.

You're too late, Urs is married!

fas1piano · Post by **fas1piano** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:17 am

i just got a hint from a developer of physical modeling type emulations of "vintage gear" that i have been annoying with this, too: he will implement channel aware midi learn, polarity and range for midi learn in the next version of at least one of his instrument. this is a great idea! just sayin'

bmrzycki · Post by **bmrzycki** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:52 pm

fas1piano wrote:...he will implement channel aware midi learn, polarity and range for midi learn in the next version of at least one of his instrument. this is a great idea! just sayin'

Urs has mentioned in the past he's thinking about overhauling MIDI but hasn't really mentioned specifics. I'd like channel aware CC messages as well.

With that said, you can easily do polarity and range right now with the 8 X1-4/Y1-4 knobs, giving you different ranges and polarities for up to 8 targets.

The name on the left is what's being modulated. The colored bar on the right shows the complete range of the control. The top arrow (pointing down) controls the length of the max positive setting. The bottom arrow (pointing up) corresponds to the max negative setting. The faint grey line in the middle represents Zero on the XY axis.

Moving the top arrow to the left and the bottom arrow to the right can invert the control. Placing an arrow within the boxed color provides range limiting. It's really quite powerful and intuitive once you have set up a few.

The only real surprising thing (to me at least) was if you change the value of the corresponding target the colored box will move but the triangles will not move. For example, in the previous screen-cap above, I changed the value on XMF1:Resonance to 60.00 by moving the knob on the XMF module. Here's a new screen-shot of the same XY:

The triangles are now doing the same range distance-wise but in a different part of the knob's absolute range. It colors the sound completely differently.

Because of this I find it's best to apply XY to a sound only after I'm done tweaking it (and making notes of which controllers I want to modulate with XYs).

I can't think of a real-world need for more than 8 macro controllers on a single preset. Most of the time I find 3 to be about tops (filter, timbre, envelope).

fas1piano · Post by **fas1piano** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:11 pm

you are right about the xy pads and i do use those the way you describe!

what i am after are fixed settings for often used parameters. i have several controllers and several vstis in one rack, so there can be interference.

but it's true that zebra does not need e.g. range as badly as other plugs. sometimes it might be handy thoug, e.g. for filter fm or general volume or other "wild" parameters that i'd like to limit.

cr2008 · Post by **cr2008** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:14 pm

cr2008 · Post by **cr2008** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:33 pm

not that zebra really needs it
but what about 2 extra osc 5 & 6
2 extra bars on the grid

the ability to type the amount in instead of using mouse on gui

apparently zebra 2 going to become zebra 3

what new features a discussed and how much for the upgrade

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