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dreamon · Post by **dreamon** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:33 pm

Has anybody succeeded using FL Studio 5 as a host and Groove Agent as a VSTi? I'm having weird dropouts in FL:s playlist window and basically GA seems to play only the first bar (and if you're lucky, a few bars every now and then after the first ..?
Help anyone?

kode_poet · Post by **kode_poet** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:56 pm

Same problem here. I hope the version 2 solves this problem, but...I dunno if I wanna shell out the money just to test it. Is there a demo out yet?

dreamon · Post by **dreamon** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:12 am

kode_poet wrote:Same problem here. I hope the version 2 solves this problem, but...I dunno if I wanna shell out the money just to test it. Is there a demo out yet?

Looks like there isn't a demo yet so we'll just have to wait... but what an annoying and silly bug !;)

hello1234 · Post by **hello1234** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:20 am

ATTENTION ALL SHOPPERS!

I have found some decent workarounds. First, there is something about the preset tempo that is a big problem........I have found that changing the tempo can do wonders.
Second, starting at bar ONE is the kiss of death it seems. If I start everything at bar 2 (pattern or song) i seem to have good luck.
Third. I believe version 2 will help but you will need to buy a dongle which is the greatest sin in history!

One problem is the fl does dx and vst............groove agent HATES dx. You can use directxier and that will help, but it's a waste unless you are also using it with sonar.

Ok, hope that helps

dreamon · Post by **dreamon** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:17 pm

eyeknow666 wrote:ATTENTION ALL SHOPPERS!

I have found some decent workarounds. First, there is something about the preset tempo that is a big problem........I have found that changing the tempo can do wonders.
Yeah, this really seems to help a lot!
Second, starting at bar ONE is the kiss of death it seems. If I start everything at bar 2 (pattern or song) i seem to have good luck.
While starting a song at bar 2 GA still starts to play from bar 1, any ideas?
Third. I believe version 2 will help but you will need to buy a dongle which is the greatest sin in history!
What, more dongles? Should have gone out of style years ago!

One problem is the fl does dx and vst............groove agent HATES dx. You can use directxier and that will help, but it's a waste unless you are also using it with sonar.

Ok, hope that helps

Thanks for you tips anyway eyeknow666 and good luck to you too!

kode_poet · Post by **kode_poet** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:51 pm

I've tried everything from starting from bar 10,000 to capturing the loops in an audio editor and choping them up and then importing them back into FL. That last one seems to work. The first one doent. Groove Agent is such a bad implemented cool idea. Sucks balls like a porn star!

dreamon · Post by **dreamon** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:52 pm

Oh, also I forgot to mention that when these dropouts occur GA:s LCD window flashes (muted) and the manual mentions nothing about it, huh?

dreamon · Post by **dreamon** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:46 pm

Yes, and one more thing: Any ideas how to get FL make Program Changes to GA (= change drum patterns etc.) or do you really have to do 'em live by hand?

kode_poet · Post by **kode_poet** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:19 pm

Dont the MIDI controller Keys do that? I believe the 1st 2 octaves have individual hits and the other 2 or 3 octaves have patterns. Either way, I havent used it for a while, since it doesnt work on FL. Sucks how a cool product, (and a good part of my damn paycheck, its just there collecting dust).

HOW ABOUT A DAMNT PATCH STEINBERG!

dreamon · Post by **dreamon** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:02 pm

Yeah, sort of but all the keys I've been hitting seem to be patterns that start off with a drum fill (which is ok sometimes) and not like you'd have when you press play on GA where they go straight into the groove..?

HOW ABOUT A DAMNT PATCH STEINBERG!

Yeah,right

kode_poet · Post by **kode_poet** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:20 am

Its starting with a drum fill because you are probably pressing on the keys too hard. Press on the keys a little softer, or modify the velocity after you record the notes to a lower value. When you want to activate a fill, put the velocity all the way up. See if that works. About the single hits, make sure you change the octave range on your keyboard if you dont have an 88 key one. U'll see what I mean.

Rajah · Post by **Rajah** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:10 am

dreamon wrote:Has anybody succeeded using FL Studio 5 as a host and Groove Agent as a VSTi? I'm having weird dropouts in FL:s playlist window and basically GA seems to play only the first bar (and if you're lucky, a few bars every now and then after the first ..?
Help anyone?

Try adjusting FLS tempo by a few units (like 90.300)instead of 90 BPM ... should work. Strange bug.

hello1234 · Post by **hello1234** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:31 am

kode_poet wrote:Dont the MIDI controller Keys do that? I believe the 1st 2 octaves have individual hits and the other 2 or 3 octaves have patterns. Either way, I havent used it for a while, since it doesnt work on FL. Sucks how a cool product, (and a good part of my damn paycheck, its just there collecting dust).

HOW ABOUT A DAMNT PATCH STEINBERG!

Nope, but you can buy the buggy dongle now!

hello1234 · Post by **hello1234** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:34 am

Rajah wrote:
dreamon wrote:Has anybody succeeded using FL Studio 5 as a host and Groove Agent as a VSTi? I'm having weird dropouts in FL:s playlist window and basically GA seems to play only the first bar (and if you're lucky, a few bars every now and then after the first ..?
Help anyone?
Try adjusting FLS tempo by a few units (like 90.300)instead of 90 BPM ... should work. Strange bug.

Yeah, that one does best.

OH BTW, starting at bar 2 in the SONG MODE is what I was talking about..........you are outa luck in pattern mode.

BTW also.........tracktion and podium use groove agent FLAWLESSLY and tracktion easily exports midi clips.............

hello1234 · Post by **hello1234** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:37 am

dreamon wrote:Yeah, sort of but all the keys I've been hitting seem to be patterns that start off with a drum fill (which is ok sometimes) and not like you'd have when you press play on GA where they go straight into the groove..?

HOW ABOUT A DAMNT PATCH STEINBERG!
Yeah,right

VELOCITY is the key. If you hit the key hard, it will trigger a fill, if you hit softly it SHOULD trigger jus the pattern.

BTW, you can edit this pretty easy, sometimes I have to go back and draw some vel lines lower...........but it works.

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