Can`t find in Nuendo/SX manual...midi step recording.

[annode]

Wanted to learn about midi step recording...but no mention I can see in the .pdf.

Am I missing it?

[Kim Lajoie]

You have to use the key editor.

Forever,




Kim.

[Ackelito]

"Step input

Step input, or step recording, is when you enter notes one at a time (or one chord at a time) without worrying about the exact timing. This is useful e.g. when you know the part you want to record but are not able to play it exactly as you want it.

Proceed as follows:

1. Click the Step Input button on the toolbar to activate Step Input mode.(inside the keyeditor far right)



2. Use the note buttons to the right to decide which properties should be included when you input the notes.

For example, you may not want to include the velocity and/or note-off velocity of the played notes. It's also possible to turn off the pitch property, in which case all notes will get the pitch C3, no matter what you play.

3. Click anywhere in the note display to set the start position (the desired position of the first note or chord).

The step input position is shown as a blue line in the note display, and in the lower mouse pointer display in the toolbar.

4. Specify the desired note spacing and length with the Quantize and Length Quantize pop-up menus.

The notes you input will be positioned according to the Quantize value and have the length set with the Length Quantize value. For instance, if you set Quantize to 1/8 notes and Length Quantize to 1/16 note, the notes will be sixteenth notes, appearing on each eighth note position.

5. Play the first note or chord on your MIDI instrument.

The note or chord appears in the editor and the step input position advances one quantize value step.

If Insert mode is activated, all notes to the right of the step input position will be moved to "make room" for the inserted note or chord.



Insert mode activated.

6. Continue in the same way with the rest of the notes or chords.

You can adjust the Quantize or Length Quantize value as you go along, to change the timing or note lengths. You can also move the step input position manually by clicking anywhere in the note display.

To insert a "rest", press the right arrow key on the computer keyboard.

This advances the step input position one step.

7. When you're done, click the Step Input button again to deactivate step input."


was it this?

[annode]

Thanx guys...that`s exactly what I was after.
I own nuendo2...but searched the nuendo3"operations.pdf,which I dloaded from ftp://ftp.steinberg.net/ to check out a few weeks back.This .pdf is the only nuendo .pdf on my net pc...so I seached that for the terms"step"and "key editor"...well guess what..."no items found!

Now,after I read your detailed text,Ackelito,I went into my music pc for the nuendo2 pdf.
Think it was p.472...or close to that,in the key editor section!

Wondering if nuendo3 has deleted key editor,or just from the .pdf?

No matter now...thanx again guys!!

[Kim Lajoie]

N2 should come with its own manuals.

Forever,




Kim.

[annode]

N2 should come with its own manuals.

Yes,it does,and I have that,but it was on my other pc with nuendo;

Now,after I read your detailed text,Ackelito,I went into my music pc for the nuendo2 pdf.

But it seems they have eliminated that section in nuendo3.

[UltraJv]

Nuendo is really geared up for audio/midi controller input. Its not like Fruity loops or Reason. The key editor isnt really up to the job for mouse/keyboard entry.

[annode]

Hi UltraJv.
Would you say FLS is better writen for step inputing?
I`ve never used step input,and now find I have a big need for it.
But i`d love to know what host is faster and easier for that function.

[UltraJv]

Fruity loops is designed to be used for step inputing and is far more capable as its designed for laptop use where controllers are optional.

[Ackelito]

annode - cubase and nuendo probably work the same way at this function, i would say that this function is working as good as in anyother host..(that has it)
its nothing fancy, not that i know of... you dont need another host to do this... just find the keycommand for switching stepinput on and off and you are fast enough...

[annode]

Thanx UtraJv...i`ll look into this!!

[Ackelito]

UltraJv, might i ask you how much time you spent with cubase/nuendos stepinput function?

you might get deeper on the subject and tell us the pros and cons before you suggest another program, just like that...

nothing bad meant just that it sounds strange to suggest something else with out telling the pros and cons before...

[Ackelito]

annode - why should you look into this? when UltraJv can tell you, cause he would not suggest you something like this if he did not know the differences?

tell us the differences and the time you can save on doing this in another program..

[UltraJv]

I use Nuendo and its well known that its not step input orientated, yes you can do it but Nuendo is expensive as its meant for the film industry and its sold as a media production tool it would be a waste of money to use it like that.

If you want to try fruityLoops :

http://www.tucows.com/preview/209204.html

[SJ_Digriz]

One of the things that nuendo/SX doesn't do for step input that is essential for decent workflow;

holding notes should increase the note length. ie if you set the root note to 1/8th notes, by holding down the keys a little longer it should go to dotted then 1/4 note etc... (also, it should have the ability to turn dotted and triplet mode on and off for this).

The good score editor programs all work in some form of this and generally have vastly superior step input options and functionality. None of the sequencer programs I've used step input very well.