KVR Audio

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:58 am

AndrewSimon wrote:
Is the UAD plugs really THAT much better?
YES they are.

That doesn't mean there are no good alternatives
and some of them are even great but only a handful
and they usually kill your CPU.

So I challenge you to take your best Reverb and run 8 instances simultaneously.
Now glance at your CPU meter.
What does it say?

Mine says 5%

thats cheating though.. you have a second processor

Jaeson Merrill · Post by **Jaeson Merrill** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:09 am

EJo wrote: Do NOT listen to these people. This was written by someone who couldnt AFFOARD

ok, stopped reading there.

THIS was written by someone who can SPELL

/anal critical for troll mode off

brianbrian · Post by **brianbrian** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:26 am

UAD is teh best omg if u dont use it u aer a sorryass buster omg lol! Liek u cant even rite a good trax until you buy one omg!!!1

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:29 am

thats cheating though.. you have a second processor

Yeah, a nice bonus people tend to forget.

UAD is teh best omg if u dont use it u aer a sorryass buster omg lol! Liek u cant even rite a good trax until you buy one omg!!!1

Absolutely not.
You do NOT have to have a UAD to create wonderful music and to create killer mixes... but it can help.

Do NOT listen to these people. This was written by someone who couldnt AFFOARD

This is what I did.
I went to SamAsh.com and got 15 payments no interest.
My monthly payment is $26

SzM · Post by **SzM** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:20 am

Hi!

What is the difference between the 1176SE and 1176LN

olafmol · Post by **olafmol** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:49 am

SzM wrote:Hi!

What is the difference between the 1176SE and 1176LN

2 letters

SzM · Post by **SzM** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:53 am

I have only Project Pak. I use 1176SE a lot and I'm curious about LN. Is it much better?

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:34 pm

If you have project pack open up the f**king pdf and it will tell you the difference.

SzM · Post by **SzM** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:43 pm

I would like to know the difference between their sounding...

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:51 pm

SzM wrote:I would like to know the difference between their sounding...

use the free 14 day trial that comes with every plug on your UAD

SzM · Post by **SzM** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:00 pm

The demo expired a half year ago ,and I don't remember how it sounded.
So can you tell it?

JeffSanders · Post by **JeffSanders** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:04 pm

SzM wrote:The demo expired a half year ago ,and I don't remember how it sounded.
So can you tell it?

The same, only a little better.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:22 pm

hehe, I disabled SE in my plugin list. I compared them when SE first came out and I don't remember anything other than I disabled it after about an hour of comparing the two.

Moritz Morpheus MkIII · Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:38 pm

superprotoolsuser wrote:
brianbrian wrote:UAD is teh best omg if u dont use it u aer a sorryass buster omg lol! Liek u cant even rite a good trax until you buy one omg!!!1
OMGLOLWTF LOL WHATKIND OF BILLGARTES ASSRAMING CARP POST IS THIS. BRIANBRIAN PROLLY DOESNT EVEN KNOW WHAT PROTOOLS IS THINKING THAT A KORG TRITON IS THE BEST KEYBOARD OUT THERE LOL OMGWTFOLOLPWNED

whoever you are, donks, you are my favourite troll these days

billybk1 · Post by **billybk1** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:56 pm

bugs wrote: The principal sales pitch for farm cards is the reduction of CPU load, but if you have a powerful processor and lots of RAM, that is irrelevant.

The reason you buy a DSP card like the UAD-1 is because of the professional sound quality of the plugins, especially the vintage emulations (the gorgeous vintage GUI's are nice to look at too

).
The native CPU savings, while a nice side benefit, is not a reason to get a DSP card, IMO. First of all, there are no native equivalants for such plugins such as, the 1176LN, LA-2A, Fairchild 670, Pultec EQ or EMT Plate 140. Many of UA's original plugins like the Cambridge EQ, DreamVerb or the recent Precision Mastering series of plugins (Limiter & EQ) are superb, in their own right. Even if UA released native versions of their plugins, because the algos are so DSP intensive, people would be screaming about how processor intensive they are to run, even on high end systems.

Here is a recent quote from a UA support rep when asked about native versions of the UAD-1 plugins:

Actually the UAD-1 plugins are incredibly DSP intense, much more so than you would think. Running natively, even with the fastest 2.5 G5, you may be able to get 4 maybe 5 up before you were out of host CPU. To put it in perspective, that little extra host load per plugin on the G5s, that's just 1/2 of just the DMA transfers to the card, that's not even any of the algorithm running .

_________________
James Cigler
Mac Product Specialist
Universal Audio
http://www.uaudio.com

To put in perspective, I can max out my (2) UAD-1 cards with many of the most processor intensive plugins, like those I mentioned previously, 16-25 plugins and the added native CPU usage, even on my old PIII 1Ghz DAW, is only around 5%, when using SONAR 4 @ 24/44 with 23.2msec latency (1024 samples).
Conversely, I would be lucky to get even a couple of these same plugins to run natively, on my ol' PIII 1Ghz DAW, before it would crap out and overload, on me.