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Rune L-H · Post by **Rune L-H** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:02 pm

Hi,

For those of you using Photoshop for your GUI designs I am happy to finally release the new version of my Knob Render tool. The previous version was based on actions, but now it has moved up to proper scripting

This has really opened up the doors for some very powerful and flexible processing.

And still..it's non desctructive, and it's actual "per frame" dynamic rendering of light and shadow.. thanks to the nature of Photoshops layer fx. So its not just rotation.

New features in version 3:

• Customize the number of animation frames.
• Define starting angle and total degree of animation.
• Vertical and horizontal stitching (and all directions).
• Allows you to run a Photoshop action on each frame.
• Outputs PSD, PNG and BMP.
• User friendly interface.
• No more "wobbling" animations.

There is also a slighty limited free version available for non commercial projects.

More info here: http://www.otiumfx.com/knobrender.php

Best regards,
Rune

Paul_FX · Post by **Paul_FX** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:17 pm

Guys,

I have to say how good this app is. We've been beta testing it for Rune, and its absolutely wicked!!

I advise all designer and programmers who need quick high quality controls to grab this app

Paul

Borogove · Post by **Borogove** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:22 pm

Looks awesome; what version of Photoshop is it for?

mauseoleum · Post by **mauseoleum** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:27 pm

yo, blood. where's the fireworx version?

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:59 pm

Excellent -- tried the previous free version but it didn't seem to want to finish the last step (kept making more frames; probably something I did wrong). I'll almost certainly buy this. Hope you don't mind if the knobs get used in medical imaging software. ;-) I'm better at that than VSTis.

Meffy

mn · Post by mn » Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:05 pm

Looks like I timed this right. I bought the previous version a few weeks ago, haven't even really used it yet.

Is the upgrade free? I'm not at home, so you may have sent emails or something, I don't know.

Rune L-H · Post by **Rune L-H** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:20 pm

Hi all

Borogove wrote:Looks awesome; what version of Photoshop is it for?

It's for Photshop 7.x and above.
Photoshop CS supports scripting out of the box, but if you have version 7.x must you must download and install the free scripting plugin from Adobe.

I'll almost certainly buy this. Hope you don't mind if the knobs get used in medical imaging software. I'm better at that than VSTis.

I can live with that

Looks like I timed this right. I bought the previous version a few weeks ago, haven't even really used it yet. Embarassed

Is the upgrade free? I'm not at home, so you may have sent emails or something, I don't know.

Yes, Knob Render 3 is a free upgrade for all registered users of the previous version 2 PRO.
It seems I have been having some problems with ShareIt. They were supposed to already have send out emails with upgrade information(download links) but it seems thay haven't. Maybe they are just a bit slow.

If you are a registered user of Knob Render 2 PRO and haven't recieved a mail with a download link for the new version within tomorrow, please contact me and I'll supply it to you myself.

Cheers,
Rune

evmsynths · Post by **evmsynths** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:24 pm

I use knob render to twist all my knobs around
{maybe that needs rephrasing !}
Any dev would be mad not to check this tool out.

Regards
Etric

EVMsynths
http://www.sinte-virtual.com/evmsynths

AntiPro · Post by **AntiPro** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:34 pm

Slightly OT, but her goes...

I did my own actions in photoshop to rotate the marker (line) only of a knob, but ran into a VERY annoying bug. When the line is rotated to near horizontal position it snaps to fully horizontal (both right/left side), which doesn't happen when nearing vertical position. It makes using photoshop actions completely useless since it snaps really at over 4°/-4° (which is a lot), resulting in a major hickup in the knobs animation.
If anyone knows the solution to solve this, much appreciated...

Rune L-H · Post by **Rune L-H** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:55 pm

AntiPro wrote:Slightly OT, but her goes...

I did my own actions in photoshop to rotate the marker (line) only of a knob, but ran into a VERY annoying bug. When the line is rotated to near horizontal position it snaps to fully horizontal (both right/left side), which doesn't happen when nearing vertical position. It makes using photoshop actions completely useless since it snaps really at over 4°/-4° (which is a lot), resulting in a major hickup in the knobs animation.
If anyone knows the solution to solve this, much appreciated...

Hmmm... actions is Photoshop is most certainly not useless. The last version of Knob Render was based on actions, and worked fine (in most cases) without the problem you describe. I have been dealing with quite a few issues to avoid "wobbling" animations but none sound similar to what you describe. I don't think I've ever encountered that problem.

A few tips: Use a high res image (such as 300x300 or so) when rotating. Rotate the knob itself and link that to the pointer.

Also note that continuing to rotate the same layer/image will degrade the quality.

Why don't you try out Knob Render 3? There is a free version availble.

Cheers,
Rune

AntiPro · Post by **AntiPro** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:24 am

Rotating the knob itself is not an option as it would screw up the lighting.

I rotate every frame starting from upward vertical position (tried horizontal too).

Since it only screws up near horizontal I think it's definitely a rotation/antialiasing bug. I wouldn't be surprised since the photoshop antialiasing isn't very good to begin with.

Scaling might be the only option left indeed.

Add rotating of a seperate layer from an arbitrary center point to your application and I might be tempted to use it.

Rune L-H · Post by **Rune L-H** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:26 am

Rotating the knob itself is not an option as it would screw up the lighting.

Duplicate (or create) the layer representing the outer edge of the knob circle. Make it completely transparent and link it to your pointer. Then rotate the invisible knob layer.

About screwing up the light... hmmm.. have you prerendered the knob itself in a 3d app? You get a much nicer look if you use Photoshops layer styles to control the light, shadow and shading of the knob. This is THE way to use Knob Render w. Photoshop, and why it is actual rendering and not just rotation.

Add rotating of a seperate layer from an arbitrary center point to your application and I might be tempted to use it.

Have you tried Knob Render? Rotating seperated layers is what it's all about! It does this already

What Knob Render does is it rotates the layer you have currently selected - as well as any layers you have linked to it.

Yes..setting a non-center pivot is a planned option for a future update, but you can already do most of what's needed by using the method descriped in the top of this post.

Since it only screws up near horizontal I think it's definitely a rotation/antialiasing bug. I wouldn't be surprised since the photoshop antialiasing isn't very good to begin with.

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Rune L-H · Post by **Rune L-H** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:27 am

I have thrown together a quick video to demonstrate some of the realism you can achieve in terms of lighting & reflection when using Photoshop with Knob Render.

View it here.

ezeeboogie · Post by **ezeeboogie** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:10 pm

I've had v2 for ages (I'm even quoted under my real world name on the webpage

) and I think it's ace. Downloaded v3 t'other day but haven't had chance to play yet...

But I know it's going to be cool!

Borogove · Post by **Borogove** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:11 pm

rune_lh wrote:I have thrown together a quick video to demonstrate some of the realism you can achieve in terms of lighting & reflection when using Photoshop with Knob Render.

View it here.

DOn't suppose you'd want to make some of those available as bitmaps?

RLH's Knob Render 3 released. (Rotate knobs in Photoshop)