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drez · Post by **drez** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:07 am

Sickle, that was freakin hilarious. Perfect timing.

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:07 am

LOL! Thanks Sickle.

Now if only BONES would show up and give these guys the brow beating that they surely deserve.

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:09 am

BONES?!

We don't need no stinking BONES?

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:11 am

drez wrote:I agree John. What you are saying is completely correct. Every single parameter is automatable from the sequencer, therefore You could, in FACT, sequence it all.

I, however, do not have the time, resources, or creative stamina to jack with any sequencer for that length of time. You can have at it and sequence that one song for the rest of your life.

You have made your point, and I concede.

Meanwhile, I'll stick to doing it with the combinator in, like, 10 mintues

I just don't think that keeping my 2.5 and "doing it by hand" is going to help my creativity or help me make songs that I wouldn't have had been able to because I am not a machine, therefore I could not allocate enough "man years" to accomplish the same task as I could easily do with the combinator.

I have enough problems finishing a tune as it is

Thank God somebody finaly understood what I was trying to say.

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:11 am

Sicklecell666 wrote:BONES?!

We don't need no stinking BONES?

Well, he does add a bit of color around here.

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:24 am

JohnVulich wrote:
Sicklecell666 wrote:BONES?!

We don't need no stinking BONES?
Well, he does add a bit of color around here.

Oh yeah..Suuure he does..

Thou Shalt not worship False Idols..

drez · Post by **drez** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:56 am

JohnVulich wrote: Thank God somebody finaly understood what I was trying to say.

I understood it the first time you posted it. I wasn't arguing the fact that you could do it (ONLY with the sequencer, NOT in realtime), I was arguing whether you should do it.

I think the smart move would be to get 3.0 and save yourself 20 years of work you don't have to do.

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:09 am

I think Combinator is analogous to the MemoryMoog. Before the MemoryMoog, you had to reprogram the synth every time you wanted to make a new patch. I can't imaging anyone wanting to go back to before patch memory in synths.

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:09 am

drez wrote:
JohnVulich wrote: Thank God somebody finaly understood what I was trying to say.
I understood it the first time you posted it. I wasn't arguing the fact that you could do it (ONLY with the sequencer, NOT in realtime), I was arguing whether you should do it.

I think the smart move would be to get 3.0 and save yourself 20 years of work you don't have to do.

Smarter yet... I just use Ableton Live these days.

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:10 am

dammit I just knew fax was gonna show up and start turning the tide damn you faaaaxxxxx

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:58 am

JohnVulich wrote:
drez wrote:
JohnVulich wrote: Thank God somebody finaly understood what I was trying to say.
I understood it the first time you posted it. I wasn't arguing the fact that you could do it (ONLY with the sequencer, NOT in realtime), I was arguing whether you should do it.

I think the smart move would be to get 3.0 and save yourself 20 years of work you don't have to do.
Smarter yet... I just use Ableton Live these days.

And we all know how many VSTi Live can play simultaneously

making all those combinations works really well also. Gee, where is that feature again? Oh, it not there! That was Reason 3 that did that!

I use Live myself, so I'm allowed to criticize it

(I actually have very few complaints)

And I'm not upgrading to Reason 3 just yet because I don't need super complex sounds, sometimes a sine wave does wonders for me. I have Reason to run on my laptop, I rarely launch it on my faster machine. But for those that do, Combinator seems great. I don't really get why some people have such a problem with it myself. If you don't think it brings enough to the table, don't upgrade. If you don't like Reason anyway, just use something else. Personally, I'll keep Reason around until is ceases to function on computers I use, just because it is so fun to mess with. I think history will show Reason as the MiniMoog of software synthesis, and you'll see Reason in emulation in 30 years.

soulkraka · Post by **soulkraka** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:24 am

JohnVulich wrote:
I think this really becoming more of a semantic argument that anything else.

I think is becoming more of a lame-ass argument for people with way too much free time on their hands than anything else. Well, I guess it IS saturday

Get back to makin' music boys.

stefancrs · Post by **stefancrs** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:02 am

soulkraka wrote:
JohnVulich wrote:
I think this really becoming more of a semantic argument that anything else.

I think is becoming more of a lame-ass argument for people with way too much free time on their hands than anything else. Well, I guess it IS saturday
Get back to makin' music boys.

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:24 am

lol.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:13 am

da adidas 12 wrote:I want to know if Reason 2.5 or 3.0 is a 16 bit sound engine becuase that would be pretty disgraceful audio quality. Someone please clarify this misunderstanding here. 24 bit audio seems to be the standard.

All internal audio processing in Reason is done at 32-bit.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:50 am

THe thing I find most striking reading back through this thread is the strength of feeling that Reason provokes. Some love it to bits, others simply don't, and feel compelled to point out the weaknesses they percieve.

To me this conveys the message that Reason is a piece of software with a strong personality.

I think that we are lucky to live in a day when we are surrounded by such a great array of music software with which to bring our creative dreams to life. The affordable software at our disposal means that we can create any sound, emulated or weird, and produce whatever style of music takes our fancy.

The problem is that the creative process can become a dry and clinical one, and we can all end up producing music that sounds the same. As musicians and composers we can so easily now get overwhelmed by the many options, bogged down in the technicalities of the software, and lose our creative edge while swimming in a pool of choices.

The personality of Reason stands against this tide. For me I find it deeply inspiring, and I find that as I plug in my keyboard to my laptop and fire up Reason I'm quickly making music that sounds good to me.

If you don't like Reason, fine, I get that. Nor am I saying that Reason is the ONLY piece of software with personaliy - there are others too.

So my advice is that its time to find software that inspires you personally, and stop carping about percieved shortcomings in the tools others prefer. Go make music

Reason 3.0 demo impressions