Best Voxengo plugs... 2 that is...
- KVRAF
- 2874 posts since 22 Oct, 2002 from "somewhere between digital and analog"
If you were only going to buy 2, or a 3 bundle... which ones are the most useful, or indipensable...
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- KVRist
- 149 posts since 13 Aug, 2001 from Chicago
Man... that's a toughie.
I have pretty much stopped using Elephant 2 in favor of Precision Limiter, but that could change with the new 2.3 version of Elephant. It's a great limiter if you need a native plug. Perhaps the best native limiter available.
I use Soniformer all the time, but if you're not doing mastering, I doubt it would be that helpful.
I love Polysquasher, but again, it's more of a mastering compressor. I don't own Crunchessor (have never even tried it to be honest), but it's probably your best bet if you need a native track compressor.
The other Voxengo plug I've become increasingly reliant upon is GlissEQ 2. Excellent track EQ, and despite the doubters, it can be useful in the mastering realm, as well.
How's that for a non-answer?
As always, your choice will depend on where your current plugin collection is lacking.
Though I'm increasingly heavily invested in my UAD-1 card, I still love Voxengo and their plugins a lot, and I don't see replacements for some of these plugs (esp. GlissEQ and Soniformer) coming along any time soon. Very unique, quality tools.
I have pretty much stopped using Elephant 2 in favor of Precision Limiter, but that could change with the new 2.3 version of Elephant. It's a great limiter if you need a native plug. Perhaps the best native limiter available.
I use Soniformer all the time, but if you're not doing mastering, I doubt it would be that helpful.
I love Polysquasher, but again, it's more of a mastering compressor. I don't own Crunchessor (have never even tried it to be honest), but it's probably your best bet if you need a native track compressor.
The other Voxengo plug I've become increasingly reliant upon is GlissEQ 2. Excellent track EQ, and despite the doubters, it can be useful in the mastering realm, as well.
How's that for a non-answer?
Though I'm increasingly heavily invested in my UAD-1 card, I still love Voxengo and their plugins a lot, and I don't see replacements for some of these plugs (esp. GlissEQ and Soniformer) coming along any time soon. Very unique, quality tools.
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- KVRian
- 992 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Pristine Space, Elephant, Crunchessor ... that's my vote. But seriously you can't go wrong with any of them. That HarmoniEQ sounds *awesome* as well, but I don't own it so I can't claim it.
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- KVRAF
- 1821 posts since 5 Oct, 2003
Although they are flexible plugins, it might be helpful if you indicated what your needs are. Primarily mastering or tracking?
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- KVRer
- 13 posts since 14 Dec, 2004 from Churchville, NY USA
GlissEQ is awesome.
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- KVRAF
- 4265 posts since 21 Oct, 2001 from my bolthole in the south pacific
Depends what you do really.
If you are mixing recorded audio tracks - Crunchessor, Elephant and GlissEq or HarmoniEQ are all very useful bread and butter tools.
BTW the freebie VoxengoSPAN (a graphical FFT frequency analyser) is incredibly useful if you don't have GlissEq - just to see what frequencies are doing what on any given channel. Elemental Audio Inspector does a similar job and is also free.
The AnalogFlux bundle is fantastic value - the Delay, Chorus and Tapebus are all unique and great sounding and if you don't have another low latency convolution plugin (Low latency SIR seems to be taking forever) the AFImpulse plug is very useful and part of the same bundle.
Regards,
Eg
If you are mixing recorded audio tracks - Crunchessor, Elephant and GlissEq or HarmoniEQ are all very useful bread and butter tools.
BTW the freebie VoxengoSPAN (a graphical FFT frequency analyser) is incredibly useful if you don't have GlissEq - just to see what frequencies are doing what on any given channel. Elemental Audio Inspector does a similar job and is also free.
The AnalogFlux bundle is fantastic value - the Delay, Chorus and Tapebus are all unique and great sounding and if you don't have another low latency convolution plugin (Low latency SIR seems to be taking forever) the AFImpulse plug is very useful and part of the same bundle.
Regards,
Eg
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- KVRist
- 149 posts since 13 Aug, 2001 from Chicago
Oh, yeah, forgot about AnalogFlux! Great bundle. Tho I don't really think TapeBus sounds "analog," it can smooth out spiky, harsh signals effectively. And the convolution plug is really handy.
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- KVRian
- 579 posts since 12 Jul, 2003
Lazlo, could you please explain more? How do you use the spectral compression?Lazlo Minimart wrote:I use Soniformer all the time, but if you're not doing mastering, I doubt it would be that helpful
As a new Elephant user (bought yesterday
Of course I will try the demo
ciao
Francesco
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- KVRian
- 992 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Soniformer is really just a multiband compressor with a LOT of bands. You draw envelopes for all the parameters, like threshold, attack, release, etc. but really that's just a nice way to enter in the parameters to all those individual bands. So think of it as a massive mutiband comp and you can see how it would be useful for mastering.
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- KVRist
- 233 posts since 21 Nov, 2003 from Australia
Let's see.. i hammer the GlissEQ and the Analog Flux suite a lot and i limit almost everything i do with Elephant2. Crunchessor is great too. I can't just narrow it down to two really.
I used Soniformer a lot before but don't use it anymore except if something in my mix is really, really, really misbehaving.
I used Soniformer a lot before but don't use it anymore except if something in my mix is really, really, really misbehaving.
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- KVRist
- 149 posts since 13 Aug, 2001 from Chicago
dburgan summed it up well. Soniformer seems more complicated than it really is. My favorite use for it is taming excessive low end in a mix without simply rolling it off. This is exactly how I used to use the Waves C4, but Soniformer handles things far more subtly and with fewer artifacts than the C4, in my opinion. I usually pull up the unfortunately-named "Radio Mix" preset and then tweak it til the low end is more balanced. Sometimes I use that preset's "Stereo Width" adjustment, sometimes not. Often, all that needs to be done to tweak the low end is to turn the "Input Slope" knob. Switch the monitoring to "Gains" to see what the "Input Slope" knob is doing in the way of compressing signals.
- KVRAF
- 2744 posts since 5 Dec, 2003 from Harlan's World
AnalogFlux and Crunchessor are my most used Vox plugs.
I also own CurveEQ and Elephant, which I find more useful when mastering.
However, I'd be lying if I didn't also say that the MOST USEFUL vox plug for recording is the Tube Amp (use it on most of my guitar stuff).
I also own CurveEQ and Elephant, which I find more useful when mastering.
However, I'd be lying if I didn't also say that the MOST USEFUL vox plug for recording is the Tube Amp (use it on most of my guitar stuff).
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- KVRian
- 992 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Indeed - Soniformer is very smooth sounding. The only problem I have with it is that it is easy to go overboard and squash the life out of the signal. I have to consciously work to restrain myself. 
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- KVRAF
- 4265 posts since 21 Oct, 2001 from my bolthole in the south pacific
The Voxengo freebies - TubeAmp, SPAN, Recorder and the tools like MSED and Sample Delay - are all decent if not excellent.kovacs wrote:However, I'd be lying if I didn't also say that the MOST USEFUL vox plug for recording is the Tube Amp (use it on most of my guitar stuff).
They don't get as much air time around here as Kjaerhus's Classic Series - which have become deservedly renowned as the best set of freebies since MDA - but they are well worth having,
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- KVRAF
- 3345 posts since 8 Nov, 2003 from Amsterdam
What do you need? What will you use them for?DHR53 wrote:If you were only going to buy 2, or a 3 bundle... which ones are the most useful, or indipensable...
Do you need effects? Do you need a compressor? Do you need an EQ? If you want effects then Crunchessor and HarmoniEQ (or what it's called) won't help you much. Do you do a lot of synths combined with vocals? you might opt for Voxformer. (Maybe Voxformer combined with the new Kjaerhus Strip control
AnalogFlux is a very nice set, but only if you need effects. Crunchessor is nice, but if you already have a good compressor, or e.g. Kjaerhus GPP, it's less useful.. etc.
Do you have clear what you want to accomplish? Or just want to own Voxengo toys?
--HansM
