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Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:40 pm

Lunch Money wrote: Just as a point of interest, Tracktion has always had inline editing.

Yeah well... but it has ONLY that, which is rather pointless in case you do extensive MIDI editing.
When editing MIDI stuff I usually have my arrange window and a matrix/key/piano editor following my selections.
I will usually zoom my arrange into some sort of overview level - in that case inline editing makes no sense at all. And I seriously don't want to zoom around all the time at all.
Select part > part shows up in editor > edit note(s) > select next part. No time (and no need either) for any zooming.

Inline editing in my book is something rather specialized. For example, if you finetune a bassline to a kick drum or vice versa (one of them being audio, the other being MIDI).
I could never imagine using it for daily MIDI editing - and that's probably what kept me away from trying out Tracktion more carefully.

UltraJv · Post by **UltraJv** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:14 am

Patrick - Hows it running with just 2Gb now?

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:51 am

Sascha Franck wrote:Inline editing in my book is something rather specialized. For example, if you finetune a bassline to a kick drum or vice versa (one of them being audio, the other being MIDI).
I could never imagine using it for daily MIDI editing - and that's probably what kept me away from trying out Tracktion more carefully.

Sure... Tracktion had it long before Cubase, and another program had it long before Tracktion... Digital Performer? I dunno.

But just because YOU can't imagine using it for daily MIDI editing doesn't mean it can't be done and hasn't been done by legions.

I'm just taking the piss, primarily-- I know T1 has MIDI features most power MIDI users can't do without. For me, all I need is note entry, length adjust, quantize, and velocity adjust. The rest is greek to me.

Greg

Patrick de Caumette · Post by **Patrick de Caumette** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:23 pm

UltraJv wrote:Patrick - Hows it running with just 2Gb now?

Thanks for your concern

I took out the extra 500 megs of ram last night, so that I only have 2 Gigs now. Didn't make a single difference...
My problemS: getting kicked out of the program for no obvious reasons, BSOD, the last problem I had last night was being kicked out and then being uncapable to re-load the project. Then, if I went back to SX2.2, the project would load fine (sight of relief)
I do not get a consistent message with the BSOD, sometimes it is IRQ related, sometimes not.

At this point, I have decided not to waste valuable time anymore and to go ahead and buy another main computer. This Tyan dual Athlon IS getting old.
I would really appreciate if people with similar setup (2 UAD cards, Motu 2408 MKIII also connevted to a Motu 2408 MKII, FX teleport and lots of video based projects) could recommend a solid, powerful setup, mobo...etc

stag · Post by **stag** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:46 pm

UltraJv wrote:stag - denormalisation is to do with badly written plugins that allow Intel processors to go into double precision math unnessarily. It has nothing to do with Cubase. As for the audio sync, some cards have crap ASIO drivers.

Speaking of bull.
Do yourself a favor mister and have the trouble of reading the entire post of mine.
there i stated the too major show stoppers in SX3 and said very clearly that none are Steinberg responsability ,never the less they are going to fix those.

Get well from your severe constipation case before insulting other well intentioned forum members.

mauseoleum · Post by **mauseoleum** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:47 pm

if people with similar setup (2 UAD cards, Motu 2408 MKIII also connevted to a Motu 2408 MKII, FX teleport and lots of video based projects) could recommend a solid, powerful setup, mobo...etc

you might want to jump to nuendo forums, if you did'nt already. apparently there's some *give me the recommended harware* effort going on.

Patrick de Caumette · Post by **Patrick de Caumette** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:07 pm

mauseoleum wrote:
if people with similar setup (2 UAD cards, Motu 2408 MKIII also connevted to a Motu 2408 MKII, FX teleport and lots of video based projects) could recommend a solid, powerful setup, mobo...etc
you might want to jump to nuendo forums, if you did'nt already. apparently there's some *give me the recommended harware* effort going on.

Thanks for the tip!
I'll look into it

UltraJv · Post by **UltraJv** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:05 pm

stag - you are helping how? did you read what Patricks problems were? Audio sync and denormalisation never came into it so why offer those out of the blue? How did you diagnose denormalisation as his problem? lol I did read your post and it wasnt helpful to the thread. And your advice about how to behave in front of customers was patronising. I wont lower myself to your tone of abuse, yet

I wish Patrick all the best in finding the solution. It does seem complex and I still think its related to hardware. IRQ BSODs do indicate that or drivers. Maybe try using just one card and see how it goes? As for getting another PC, it may be that transferring the existing cards across may result in the same issues

Patrick de Caumette · Post by **Patrick de Caumette** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:56 pm

Thanks for your support guys!

It would be pretty scary if I were to get a new system and have the same issues with it!

THEN, you'd really hear me rant!

Unfortunately, I have very little time to spend trying out long procedures to search for the cause of this. This precious time, I have to dedicate to music.

I think this computer will be fine as a slave, reward for all the aggravation it has given me.

tchibo · Post by **tchibo** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:07 pm

Sascha Franck wrote:
Lunch Money wrote: Inline editing in my book is something rather specialized. For example, if you finetune a bassline to a kick drum or vice versa (one of them being audio, the other being MIDI).
I could never imagine using it for daily MIDI editing - and that's probably what kept me away from trying out Tracktion more carefully.

I definately agree.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:59 pm

tchibo wrote:
Sascha Franck wrote:
Lunch Money wrote: Inline editing in my book is something rather specialized. For example, if you finetune a bassline to a kick drum or vice versa (one of them being audio, the other being MIDI).
I could never imagine using it for daily MIDI editing - and that's probably what kept me away from trying out Tracktion more carefully.
I definately agree.

<shrug> I guess I don't miss the features that other people claim to miss. I can't imagine which features are needed to fine-tune this bass drum, for example. I guess I need an example. <grin>

But, regardless-- now you have the T2 demo to look forward to, with improved MIDI.

Greg

mandolarian · Post by **mandolarian** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:32 pm

Ah, Greg, you're being too nice. MIDI is just so 80's technology. With T2, you want a new bass drum, select the 'Helicopter' tool and it flies it in for you.

Cubase SX3 drives me nuts