any of you melodyne users, is melodyne suitable for all types of timestretching and pitchshifting?
my friend only uses his copy as a substitute for autotune and doesn't really know his way around the program. im trying to figure out how to stretch a drumloop. so far, i just dragndrop the loop into melodyne, click detect melody, select unpitched percussive, then change the tempo in the temporary offsets window.
i imported a 80bpm simple kick-snare w/ double time highhat loop and the results dont sound good when stretching anything over -/+ 5-6bpm. i especially notice the aritfacts w/ the double time high hats...
am i doing something wrong? ive read in numerous places how good melodyne's timestretch is, and the melodyne video at the website shows melodyne stretching a much more complex track w/ very impressive results. the guy demoing the program even brings the temp down to 1bpm and there are no artifacts. btw my friend has the latest copy of melodyne installed.
any help is appreciated. im looking to buy a timestretcher real soon. so far prosoniq timefactory seems to be the only good timestretcher i've tried.
melodyne to timestretch
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- KVRist
- 143 posts since 21 Jul, 2003
I would suggest you to read the chapter "A music tour with Melodyne" in the supplied manual. Please do not take my advice in a negative way. If you want to do some quick timestretching/pitch shifting then it will help you a lot. It's a very good app for the said purpose.
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Spaceman Sounds Spaceman Sounds https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=56830
- KVRian
- 580 posts since 3 Feb, 2005
Never use a timestretch alo to stretch drum loops. Allways cut up the individual slices in Recycle or in your audio app then strech the individual slices.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Unless stretching it sounds right. Because in that case, it WOULD be right! 
(just being a smartass. I agree with your point.)
(just being a smartass. I agree with your point.)
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Spaceman Sounds Spaceman Sounds https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=56830
- KVRian
- 580 posts since 3 Feb, 2005
He he... true. Sometimes I use timestretching in Nuendo 2 to see if a beat sounds right at a different tempo, if it works, I then cut it up into individual beats then quantize 
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- KVRAF
- 1975 posts since 4 Feb, 2005
The thing about Melodyne is that it's stretching and shifting functions are possibly the most advanced currently in existance on the market, and with that comes a bit of a learning curve.
Melodyne's stretcher does not detect transients the way your'e expecting, and so when you stretch it stretches the drum hit noise in conjunction with the rest (much like any timestretcher). I think the best answer here is to separate the first little bit of each drum hit from the tail and stretch the tails only. As to matching this to a given tempo, however, I'm not sure how to go about it. If you slowed the tempo down, I guess, you could grab the head part of each drum hit and smash them shorter or stretch them longer until you get something that sounds right.
Melodyne's stretcher does not detect transients the way your'e expecting, and so when you stretch it stretches the drum hit noise in conjunction with the rest (much like any timestretcher). I think the best answer here is to separate the first little bit of each drum hit from the tail and stretch the tails only. As to matching this to a given tempo, however, I'm not sure how to go about it. If you slowed the tempo down, I guess, you could grab the head part of each drum hit and smash them shorter or stretch them longer until you get something that sounds right.
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- Waaaaahhh
- 2224 posts since 30 Jul, 2001 from montreal, quebec,canada
you should check out phatmatik pro...its will do what you want but faster
you want to slow down the bpm of a drumloop,right?
well phatmatik pro chops automatically each drumhits and will then assign each of them to a midi note, it will then generate a midi file and then you can slow down the tempo just like you can already do with drum samplers
plus doing that way you can change the order in which each drum hit is played so you can create new loops with your old loops.
plus you can also assign each drum hit to its separeate mixer track/channel...so you can now use effectd on just the drumhit you want.ie reverb only on the snares and compression on kicks
all this is done automatically since phatmatik pro chops your loops and assigns it to midi note all by itself
time stretch is good but the way I justy mentionned gives better results then time-stretching
although time stretching is inevitable when your working with things that are sustained and are not percussif(pads,sustained vocals drones etc)
you want to slow down the bpm of a drumloop,right?
well phatmatik pro chops automatically each drumhits and will then assign each of them to a midi note, it will then generate a midi file and then you can slow down the tempo just like you can already do with drum samplers
plus doing that way you can change the order in which each drum hit is played so you can create new loops with your old loops.
plus you can also assign each drum hit to its separeate mixer track/channel...so you can now use effectd on just the drumhit you want.ie reverb only on the snares and compression on kicks
all this is done automatically since phatmatik pro chops your loops and assigns it to midi note all by itself
time stretch is good but the way I justy mentionned gives better results then time-stretching
although time stretching is inevitable when your working with things that are sustained and are not percussif(pads,sustained vocals drones etc)
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- KVRian
- 1473 posts since 1 Jan, 2005 from Norway
The time stretching in Melodyne is great when you have monophonic audio input. However, it is not designed as a general purpose time stretching tool. Why don't you try a general purpose time stretcher like Acon Studio Time, PSoft Chronostream or Prosoniq Time Factory?any of you melodyne users, is melodyne suitable for all types of timestretching and pitchshifting?