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DHR53 · Post by **DHR53** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:28 am

Well if your not jamming live... it's sort of a roundabout way of doing something pretty basic... (Creating a drum track!) If you want to set the thing up to just "play away" and push buttons to make variations... its fun... but composing?? Hmmm... too much remote control "MC" for me... I'm wondering what would happen if i tried to load about 10 of those combinator patches into a rack at once... then unfolded em' ...????

Probably blow up the G5

DHR53 · Post by **DHR53** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:39 am

O.K. selecting the redrum in the combinator is not that big a deal... but if you have a lot of stuff in the rack, and a bunch of combinators... this thing could get ridiculously complicated! I can see needing a schematic to remember what the hell was going on in this thing! Hell, I couldn't remember what was going on in some of my 2.5 templates... I must be getting old!

braj · Post by **braj** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:07 am

DHR53 wrote:I must be getting old!

That must be it!

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:44 am

FaX wrote:Secondly no one loves to throw around the term Fanboy more than they do if REASON is mentioned.

Gee... I wonder why?

braj · Post by **braj** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:58 am

JohnVulich wrote:
FaX wrote:Secondly no one loves to throw around the term Fanboy more than they do if REASON is mentioned.
Gee... I wonder why?

I seriously have no idea why people feel the need to post these sorts of comments. It's like fanboyism in reverse. Fanboys attacking other camps, like PC users posting that Macs suck in Mac forums. Got no clue what motivates this behavior. Perhaps someone's done a study? Whatever

FaX · Post by **FaX** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:34 am

JohnVulich wrote:
FaX wrote:Secondly no one loves to throw around the term Fanboy more than they do if REASON is mentioned.
Gee... I wonder why?

No actually Jon I do wonder.
Reason is one of the many tools I use.
Why one of many ?
Simply put becuase it isn't all things to all men !
I know of no singular application or piece of hardware that's perfect.
Alot of people rave on about Fruity or EXT or NI product for arguements sake but NI have the "I'm a cool profesional" wank factor .
So no one ever seems to be accused of NI or Reaktor fanboyism and yet it exists .
I don't beleive Reason is for everyone.
If it isn't, why go out of your way just to post crappy flame bait to boost your self postured assumption that Reason sucks dogs gonads ?
What one see's as a weakness ,others may see as a strength for exmple.
I just get the impression Reason is every piss and whiping boys favourite post.
You get accused of being a fanboy (what a f**king faggy term anyway and I'm gay!!!!!) just for showing interest in the friggin program.
So maybe I should just sell my PC - prostitute myself for 12 months get a Dual G5 w/ Logic 7 Pro , Metasynth , Absynth , Reaktor , FM7 , Zebra , FilterScape , MaxMSP , Stylus and Pluggo .
I could rave about it all no stop adnausium and never get accused of fanboyism because my kit list shows incredible taste and that I mean business

..........

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:50 am

First off, some of you guys just take comments like mine way too seriously.

Second, I think Reason users get picked on for being "fanboys" because of going to absurd lengths in their defensiveness and subsequent parroting of Propellerhead's PR/propaganda, regarding their odd development strategies. I don't think this odd syndrome is seen as much with other products.

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:01 am

FaX wrote:If it isn't, why go out of your way just to post crappy flame bait to boost your self postured assumption that Reason sucks dogs gonads ?

I don't think that I "went out of my way" to post my retort...

I'm not trying to post "flame bait" either...

I am certainly being a smart ass and f**king around.

However, I never said that Reason sucks. Where did you get that one from? I have written quite a bit about my feelings on Reason 3 on this forum. In none of my messages have I ever said that the program sucks. I suggest you try to keep yourself a little better informed before you open your big mouth like that again.

braj · Post by **braj** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:04 am

I personally don't read anyone's PR or pay any attention to ads. I'm not into mind control, but what works for me. I like demos.

I have to say I've noticed a lot more of what I'd call 'fanboy' behavior from other application's fans. Don't ask which hosts, cause I'm not going there. I think the whole behavior is asinine.

Regarding tools, any tools, I think it's funny how apps like Reason get called unprofessional or low quality when people have use Casio VL-1s on hit records. That's the first thing I owned with an 'ADSR'. I carried that bad boy with me everywhere, and I remember hearing a Human League song, and saying 'that's the Fantasy VL-1 sound!' Anyway, my point is, anything can be a pro instrument if it's used by a pro.

FaX · Post by **FaX** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:16 am

JohnVulich wrote:
FaX wrote:If it isn't, why go out of your way just to post crappy flame bait to boost your self postured assumption that Reason sucks dogs gonads ?
I don't think that I "went out of my way" to post my retort...

I'm not trying to post "flame bait" either...

I am certainly being a smart ass and f**king around.

However, I never said that Reason sucks. Where did you get that one from? I have written quite a bit about my feelings on Reason 3 on this forum. In none of my messages have I ever said that the program sucks. I suggest you try to keep yourself a little better informed before you open your big mouth like that again.

The YOU and YOUR in the context of that post was people in general NOT you as in John .... just wanted to clarify and I should have been clearer.
I actually wasn't refereing to you inparticular in the context of the entire post.

raapie · Post by **raapie** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:31 am

yes, there are lots of Reason fans. maybe it's because Reason is a closed set of tools instead of the VST protocol where you will end up checking out all the new synths, buying stuff, using free stuff.

Because Reason is a closed application I think a lot of users who don't use VSTi's are still trying to find out if Reason is capable of producing the same sort of sounds. With Reason you're able to produce any sound we're hearing in modern productions. Combinator makes things easier.

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:38 am

Combinator revelas Reason's weakness, and plucktrum's reveal bad guitar players.

lucille · Post by **lucille** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:48 am

I a reason user but to say that reason can create any sound is just misleading, IMO. Get a 3zta or pentagon demo--nothing in Reason will touch it. Also, I have not been able to duplicate the vanguard trance gate sound. If anyone has a trancegate rig--
I'd be interested to hear it.

raapie · Post by **raapie** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:13 am

yes, agreed, no program or hardware synth will sound the same. but since you can make samples, Reason can sound like the Zeta

add other devices on them using a COmbinator and voila: a very complex and new sound.

safeaim · Post by **safeaim** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:28 am

You won't have that much control over those samples..

Combinator reveals Reason's weakness