KVR Audio

sdv · Post by **sdv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:49 am

Howdy ya'll,

I have a clean install of XP on my laptop and installed Muzys on it and when I go to save a song it crashes. I try ComputerMuzys on this system and the same thing... crash the app and 2x it froze/rebooted the system.

I've never had this happen in W2K so I'm thinking it's an XP issue. Anyone else have this problem??

Thnk... scott

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:59 am

All I can say is "no". I've been using Muzys 3.x (and briefly CMuzys) on XPSP2 (and vanilla XP, and SP1) for over a year. It does crash but not consistently - not had it crash on save, AFAIR.

What soundcard and drivers are you using?

sdv · Post by **sdv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:43 pm

pljones wrote:What soundcard and drivers are you using?

Not sure, the laptop manual says Sound Blaster compatible. I'm using ASIO4All drivers but I have DirectSound as my main audio setup.

carlos · Post by **carlos** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:51 pm

maybe it's the combo of vst's that's causing the crash!!

sdv · Post by **sdv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:04 pm

carlos wrote:maybe it's the combo of vst's that's causing the crash!!

Yes carols, that's a good thought. And I went and replicated the same vst's on another machine (running W2K) and ran/saved no problem. So that led me to think it was WXP(SR2) but I'm leaning more towards cruddy sound drivers at this stage.
More debugging is in order.

carlos · Post by **carlos** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:38 pm

it's poss that you need to move away from directsound and go asio, some confusion probably with muzys and laptop soundcard when shutting down soundcard driver, can you view the report offered following a crash?

sdv · Post by **sdv** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:45 pm

carlos wrote:it's poss that you need to move away from directsound and go asio, some confusion probably with muzys and laptop soundcard when shutting down soundcard driver, can you view the report offered following a crash?

Yes, that has a good chance of being correct. The error report doesn't give human details, just 'fault at memory address' type error codes.

Tell ya what, I'm going to try switching over to ASIO and see what happens, thanks for the suggestion/
I'll report back shortly!

Exit Zero · Post by **Exit Zero** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:20 pm

I'm running Muzys on XP - no problems at all.

So it crashes when you save a file? Have you tried making a new file after the new install?

Copy your install to another folder and make sure that no VST/VSTI plugs are being used whatsoever, and see if your crashing continues. If so, you can eliminate the possibility that plugins are causing this.

If you've eliminated the issue of plugins, AND if you cannot establish a pattern (always crashes on save for example) but rather the lockups are happening intermittently or randomly, then you may have some bad ram or a defective harddrive or harddrive controller. (FWIW, I don't believe your audio drivers will have an effect on 'saving' files, but I guess anything is possible.)

sdv · Post by **sdv** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:55 am

Exit Zero wrote: So it crashes when you save a file? Have you tried making a new file after the new install?

You gents are correct... looks like a VSTi problem.
I know energyPRO caused some crashes. Plus a few projects I created just with Muzynth patches saved properly but then didn't reload... odd.

At least it seems that for now energyXT works + saves ok. So a good back-up plan is to use eXT files in case Muzys won't load a .ism for some reason.

Thanks for the help debugging... sdv!!

Muzys: Save => crash in XP