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nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:52 pm

If you were referring to me, yeah I do. I'd hate to go off half-cocked.

Manc Chris · Post by **Manc Chris** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:55 pm

nuffink wrote:If you were referring to me, yeah I do. I'd hate to go off half-cocked.

Half cocked? You go off like a fuckin Blunderbuss

CypherOne · Post by **CypherOne** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:57 pm

Manc Chris wrote:
nuffink wrote:
Manc Chris wrote: Oh, and can I suggest that the idiot who went off on one at the very thought of this 'misguided respect', throws his own personal musical achievments into the mix, pits them against Bob's, goes green, then red, then relents, and sends a cheque for £500 immediately, FAO The Big Cheese, Band Aid fund, Surrey.

Ta!
Who's that then?

Do you need the postcode as well?

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:04 pm

Chris,
Why are you starting this kind of thread and taking criticism of it's subject personally?

Manc Chris · Post by **Manc Chris** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:07 pm

nuffink wrote:Chris,
Why are you starting this kind of thread and taking criticism of it's subject personally?

Eh? Not.

MickGael · Post by **MickGael** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:10 pm

Manc Chris wrote:I dug out 'Tonic' again recently and still found it to be an uplifting vibrant album, with the sound of real musicians, warts n all, playing great pop songs, all dirtied up on good old 2" analogue tape. (Yes, you can really HEAR it on this record) So, yeah, Bob was/is more than a 'saint' .... he was a F*****G inspiration, and ' tis about time that was recognised.
Cheers Bob!

An absolute classic record that somehow got lost in the shuffle....

"Is she really going out with Adolph?"

munchkin · Post by **munchkin** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:11 pm

Ian B wrote:
nuffink wrote:They wrote cuntishly terrible songs and performed them like a bunch of no-talent c**ts.
And that's them at their best.
Add in uncle bob's reptillian personality ("OIM FOCKIN' ANGRY, ME!"), and that twat in pyjamas, and terrible is letting them off gently.
Too true.
I assumed you were taking the piss, since I've never met anyone, let alone a musician, who admitted to liking them.
Ditto.
Glad to see you have the courage of your convictions.
I reckon people should be convicted for liking them.

Sorry Chris, but to my ears they were truly terrible.

(Apologies to Chris in advance.

) I was going to quote nuffink until I saw Ian's post. I'm so glad at least two people have kept their punk credentials. How f**king terrible were BTR? They are in the same category as Toyah, Hazel O'Conner, Howard Jones and Nick Kershaw. Provincial pop dressed up as punk that ranked lower than the very worst 6th form poetry. Any band with a sax in it was hippie shite (except for Pig Bag, The Pop Group and Clock DVA.)

I just have to mention The Undertones and then it places the Rats into perspective, doesn't it?

MickGael · Post by **MickGael** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:13 pm

munchkin wrote:I just have to mention The Undertones and then it places the Rats into perspective, doesn't it?

Not really (though I love the Undertones as well)

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:43 pm

munchkin quoth I'm so glad at least two people have kept their punk credentials.

Thats funny, I remember that smug 'I was a punk before you were a punk' sneering bollocks from way back then as well....

ejr · Post by **ejr** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:28 pm

Interesting thread....
What is it about the BTR that still stirs such passionate support???? At a party last year a middle aged accountant (from Dublin) came close to remodelling my face when I expressed the opinion that they were 'shiiiite'. I thought it was some nationalistic thing but obviously not.
Mind you the sainted Bob did give one of my favourite pop star quotes of that era when he said he wanted to 'get rich, get famous and get laid'

Manc Chris · Post by **Manc Chris** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:30 pm

munchkin wrote: I'm so glad at least two people have kept their punk credentials. How f**king terrible were BTR? They are in the same category as Toyah, Hazel O'Conner, Howard Jones and Nick Kershaw. Provincial pop dressed up as punk that ranked lower than the very worst 6th form poetry. Any band with a sax in it was hippie shite (except for Pig Bag, The Pop Group and Clock DVA.)

What a load of shite generalisations. Just like the other two people you quote, I suggest your 'punk credentials' are minimal. The Rats never claimed to be a punk band.

munchkin wrote: I just have to mention The Undertones and then it places the Rats into perspective, doesn't it?

Again, you have shot yourself in the foot here. The Undertones were a mighty pop band, one of my fav bands ever in fact, who again, WERE.NOT.PUNK.

Therefore, despite mouthing off like some kind musical oracle, it appears you know F,all about it really and you are coming unstuck at a rate of knots.

Whatever 'history of punk' book you bought ... I'd either demand a refund, or stop looking at the pictures and read the bloody text.

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:32 pm

munchkin wrote: I'm so glad at least two people have kept their punk credentials.

ehem...

My first band (the Blu Hippos) led off for Husker Du, Black Flag, Fear, the Replacements and the Effigies.

We sucked, don't get me wrong.

But you brought up that 'punk credentials' stuff and I just started typing, helpless to stop myself.

On topic....I just have a different perspective. I have seen so, SO many shitty bands in my life, that whenever I hear people getting all extreme putting down a decent band, I have to chime in. I don't own a single BTR album. My old band mate owned all the records (I paid the rent...shitty deal, now that I think about it). But I just don't understand the hatred. I never really understand it. I personally reserve this sort of indignation for pseudo-musicians like Cher and Madonna.

But we're all different here aren't we?

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:34 pm

munchkin quoth Any band with a sax in it was hippie shite (except for Pig Bag, The Pop Group and Clock DVA.)

Oh Bondage! Up Yours!

ejr · Post by **ejr** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:42 pm

Oh no not the ultimate northern Punk credentials test......

Who saw the Pistols at Manchester Free Trade Hall then????

No... me neither

Though I did once work with a tosser who claimed he had till I pointed out he was 12 at the time...

Manc Chris · Post by **Manc Chris** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:59 pm

ejr wrote:Oh no not the ultimate northern Punk credentials test......

Who saw the Pistols at Manchester Free Trade Hall then????

No... me neither

Though I did once work with a tosser who claimed he had till I pointed out he was 12 at the time...

Indeed.

Thing is, I feel sorry for anyone who really WAS there now. "Did I ever tell you that I saw the Pistols at the Free Tr....... Hello? HELLO?"

It's like when you ring in (genuinely) sick for work .... "OH YES?, RIGHT THEN, HMMMM"

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