1 more reason I don't like Gibson

[Hink]

Oh btw, Les Pauls have glued-on necks, not through body..

you are indeed correct and the fact that each guitar is unique is quite true...I just took exception to the term "top quality" it might not be your taste, but it's far from low quality. In fact you should try warmoth, anything you want you can get...even body blanks made from many exotic woods...the closest guitar I've played to the feel of mine is a parker fly, my guitar is also feather weight. I like my ESP alot too nd I just put my kramer ritchie sambora back together after doing a fret job...but the Warmoth is my baby.

I actually didn't buy the parts, I worked in a music store and someone sold me the guitar half-assed put together. Even then the action was sweet, but the neck bolts were chewed up, it crap pick-ups the wiring was very sloppy and it made noises...the boss said you like it, you buy it. I did, very cheap too and did it right. I'm small to begin with, my hands are not huge by any means, after 33 years of playing this guitar is so comfortable to play...but of course that's just for me. I understand that Brian May's guitar is tough to play, but he did well with it.

[clueless]

Heh... IMO the truly "real guitar players" can make great sound whether they pick up a Silvertone Sears Special, a 'Caster, or any of the amazing oddities shown in this rather interesting thread on a French music board.

Me? On guitar I can produce two, maybe three chords tops. But they'd sound just as bad on a classic Les Paul as they did on the junk guitar I used to have.

Meffy

amen, Meffy

[Meffy]

Heh, did you check out that thread in the link? All kinds of "art" guitars there. Can't imagine owning one but they're great eye candy.

It might take a moment (or a horizontal scroll) for this one to sink in... :-D

[seamoss]

jimmy hendrix - fender


why play anything else?


phuck Gibson

[IIRs]

...the closest guitar I've played to the feel of mine is a parker fly,

I must confess, I did like the parker fly I tried, though it would be hard to find a more different guitar to my own!

However, the only one I ever played that I liked almost as much as mine cost twice as much (PRS) so it could have been worse!

[IIRs]

Heh, did you check out that thread in the link? All kinds of "art" guitars there. Can't imagine owning one but they're great eye candy.

It might take a moment (or a horizontal scroll) for this one to sink in...

<edit> Its bloody left handed too!

[clueless]

jimmy hendrix - fender


why play anything else?


phuck Gibson

and it's "Jimi"

[whiteaxxxe]

hm ... the second guitar I want to own once in my life is a les paul, with soapbar-pickups and in black.

why? its called the "black beauty" ... and thats what it is. the most besutiful guitar with the sweetest to dirtiest sound you can imagine.

the price of 6k dollars is a price that people will pay if the guitar is this worth in their mind. and thats ok. noone must buy this guitar, because its too not in every case the best. it depends on ... however ...

and now I will come to the first guitar I ever wanted to own, I would have paid every price for it. only the fact that this guitar was never sold - except some copies that all in my opinion did not reach the original - made me save a lot of money.

but nowadays after 30 (!!!) years og waiting, I bought one - new - for 780 euro including shipping.

its a Brian May Red Special in white. uuuuuu .... man, I can tell ... this is hell on earth! the price is too low, from my point of view, its for me the holy grail, and not payable. but you can imagine, how glad I am, to get this thing for an affordable price.

so: the price of a guitar has never anything to do with sound and/or something else. I never in my life would pay only 5 buck for a stratocaster.

everybody has to know by himself, what is worth what.

[Hink]

...the closest guitar I've played to the feel of mine is a parker fly,

I must confess, I did like the parker fly I tried, though it would be hard to find a more different guitar to my own!

However, the only one I ever played that I liked almost as much as mine cost twice as much (PRS) so it could have been worse!

Like I say my guitars choose me or evolve from me...FWIW beside my dean fretless I have never sold a guitar that I own (I have sold thousands retail). So name or resale value is not a factor at all...nor as I proved with my Kramer does color...it's like somwhere between ruby red and hot pink (closer to pink) but it does have gold plated hardware, duncans (three humbuckers) and of course star shaped marker dots...it's quite a nice playing guitar and sounds great. But it's quite heavy compared to my warmoth. BTW that came into play when I had my hernia (pre surgery) I would of been able to play a Les Paul. I could barely pick up my guitar just before surgery...I wrote I Stepped Right in it while recovering from that surgery.

I do want to leave you with a very funny, true Les Paul story. My best friend growing up was a genious (part of the developers for roomba). He wanted to play guitar and he had a lot of cash. So he bought a 30th anniversary goldtop Les Paul (brand new, this was 82 I believe) and a polytone amp. He sat down with the guitar, and reached down to grab the chord. You paul players probably know what happened next. The guitar being so bottom heavy did like any paul and tried to head for the floor and the neck came up and the headstock hit him square in the lip splitting it wide open...I said "dude if the first thing your guitar does is give you a fat lip I don't think that's a good sign"...he let that guitar waste away, the frets actually rusted..I blew up the amp...

[dry bones]

Gibson- pah! I paid £100 for my Antoria Rockstar, and it beats the shit out of an ES335 in every area

[IIRs]

I have never sold a guitar that I own

I sold my first one: a shitty strat copy with a plywood body.. never missed it.

My first Les Paul was stolen though. That wasn't funny, I assure you! Worked out ok: my current one is nicer.. but I still want that guitar back, for sentimental reasons if nothing else: I played my first gigs on it..

[clueless]

Gibson- pah! I paid £100 for my Antoria Rockstar, and it beats the shit out of an ES335 in every area

my first (and only) electric is a 70's Antoria LP copy, and i love it. Or i did, until i "rockstar"-ed it through a TV. As you do...

[Har]

Lessie, my les Paul story (seems like everyone has one ))...

After years of playing cheap knock-offs (including a rather bizarre left-handed old Ibanez Strat copy flipped upside down (ala Jimi, but in reverse ) with 3 Haagstrum pickups), I finally bought a rather nice Gibson Les Paul Standard with a Seymore Duncan JB pickup in the lead slot for about $350 from my old band's roadie, who had bought it from its original owner, my old band's former guitarist.

Now, this Les Paul had an interesting history: the nut was chipped around the high E string....after an onstage incident where the guitarist had left his extra-long cables coiled around onstage, and as I was walking off between sets my foot got caught in it, and.....ooops. Over it fell, flat on its face. This led to the one and only fistfight I've ever had with a band member. Anyway, he eventually sold it to our roadie, who then finally sold it to me.

it was a beautiful instrument to be sure, and sounded every bit as beautiful as it looked...except for one problem: it absolutely refused to stay in tune when I played it. And ONLY when I was the one playing it...it seemed that when anyone else played it, no problem. Seems like the thing just didn't like me...probably getting its revenge for that onstage tumble it took thanks to my foot and the cable.

While I loved that Les Paul sound (at the time I was despirately trying to sound like Steve Hackett and Robert Fripp )....I was starting to discover it exceled at really 2 sounds: crunch, and more crunch. I was starting to really hanker for those Robbie Blunt/Alex Lifeson clean ringy 80's Strat sounds at that time (being the late 80's ), so I did an even trade-up with a guy I knew for the Fender Strat I have now, and never looked back. for what I was trying to do musically, I personally found my Strat to give me a wider range of sounds than my Les Paul did, especially after I replaced the stock fender lead pickup with a Seymore Duncan HotRails which sustains like crazy. And...it stays in tune.

Every now and then I toy with the idea of getting another Les Paul...but more likely than not I'd get a cheap Epiphone or something.

Would I ever shell out $6K for a guitar? Not likely, though I did just recently shell out quite a bit for a new Chapman Stick. But to me that was definitely worth it in terms of the build quality, and definitely in terms of the support that comes with it...including the inventor of the instrument actually calling me at work to discuss I problem I was having with it at the time, and then just having a friendly chat for a good 45 minutes or so about playing techniques and such. I get the feeling I wouldn't have gotten such a call from Mr. Gibson or Mr. Fender in such a situation (were they still alive... ).

[Soniccat]

Ah Gibson Guitars, definately has the hard rock edge that alot of guitarists want.

I use to own a Les Paul Special (mahogany body, soap bar pickups) and I really loved the sound it made. Nothing like the Standards or the Customs, but ballsy as all hell. Had it for about a year and then decided that the thing was way too heavy and never stayed in tune for very long. Sold it to a friend and then got a Tele and Strat and have had them ever since. to get balls to the wall heavyness, I built my own strat-a-like with Seymore Duncan Hot Rails and it is a hell of alot more comfortable to play.

I also wanted to get a Gibson ES335 but could never imagine being able to afford something like that so I got me an Epiphone Riviera instead and that is one nice guitar at 1/4 the price.

[lunarhalo]

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