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Ruffiano · Post by **Ruffiano** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:51 am

just this.. what effects -VST or Dx- I need to get a vintage sound? (black keys... old R n'R...) I was working with PSP vintage warmer and iZotope Vinyl but i can't get it.

Saludos from Spain!

declassified · Post by **declassified** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:34 am

If you have worked with VintageWarmer and iZotope Vinyl and you couldn't get it you're pretty lost.

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soulkraka · Post by **soulkraka** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:39 am

why not try recording parts to a 4-track analog tape deck? they are cheap now, just get the kind that records at double speed so you have that option for higher fidelty if you need it.

if you really want to splurge then by a 2 inch reel to reel.

isdjan · Post by **isdjan** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:50 am

add tube effects, the grungelizer and a tape delay

Kim Lajoie · Post by **Kim Lajoie** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:03 pm

Amplitube is really good for hard-core lofi retroness.

Forever,

Kim.

Ruffiano · Post by **Ruffiano** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:00 pm

thank you! so the way is search for a tape simulator -I work in digital...- and tube effects. What about tape simulators?

Ciao

Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:02 pm

you need a tape sim and tube sim, also roll off the highs slightly.

birrbits · Post by **birrbits** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:24 pm

A little eq can go a LONG way in getting that retro sound.

I disagree with the 4 track tape idea as I am currently archiving my 4-track tapes to digital & the sound quality is quite good, even found myself using 32bit recording (24bit A/Ds) to capture the better recordings as the 16 bit was losing some of the high end warmth. My 4 track isnt anything special, just a fostex x-28..

If you want to try the tape approach to get lofi, use a boombox

learjeff · Post by **learjeff** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:41 pm

Try "Endorphine", a VST mastering plugin. Along with the other suggestions. In addition to being a two-band mastering compressor with tape saturation simlation, it also has an opto-compressor simulator. Opto compressors were an important tool back in the days, and contributed to the tone.

And it's either freeware or shareware, don't remember which.

soulkraka · Post by **soulkraka** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:03 pm

birrman wrote: I disagree with the 4 track tape idea as I am currently archiving my 4-track tapes to digital & the sound quality is quite good, even found myself using 32bit recording (24bit A/Ds) to capture the better recordings as the 16 bit was losing some of the high end warmth. My 4 track isnt anything special, just a fostex x-28..

If you want to try the tape approach to get lofi, use a boombox

I know what your saying birrman. 4 tracks are perfectly capable of sounding great but I do like the sound I get from sending tracks from my comp to the 4 track and slamming them.

learjeff · Post by **learjeff** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:01 pm

Birrman, I think you're missing the point. You're quite right that tape isn't "lo-fi". But it has very different characteristics than digital when you push the levels and saturate it. With digital, as you increase the levels over 0dBFS you just get nasty clipping. With analog tape, you get a nice warm compression effect that sounds great (if you don't overdo it).

So, you definitely can use a real tape deck to help get a "vintage" sound. This doesn't imply that tape decks can't record in high fidelity!

birrbits · Post by **birrbits** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:37 pm

learjeff, yeah I know how tape saturation works...
The vintage sound I think he is looking for (since he said black keys... old R n'R...) is more along the lines of phonograph/record vintage.

zatra · Post by **zatra** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:56 am

you can also try Voxengo CurveEQ

how make a great retro-sound?