Hi Paul
Thanks very much for your encouraging words. It still needs a lot of work, but I'm quite pleased with it so far.
One thing I am noticing is that my sound cards' latency (Audigy) make it's hard to keep the guitar in time. If I try to correct it by editing the midi, it can loose the "feel". It also means lots of work to correct drum parts.
It's no good, I'll have to get a better card soon.
Alan
Yet Another Manystation Tune
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- KVRian
- 1171 posts since 21 Feb, 2004
What drivers are you using Alan?
Nobody's a nobody...
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- Mod-ulator
- 2895 posts since 31 Oct, 2000 from "Where I'm to, There I'll be"
Hmmm
9ms should be good...
Strange.
paul
9ms should be good...
Strange.
paul
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- KVRAF
- 3345 posts since 8 Nov, 2003 from Amsterdam
Great groove, nice slow blues. I love it.
Although even here the guitars sound artificial as soon as you use the pitch bend. So far I haven't managed to get the MS guitars to sound natural enough in a blues song, so I'm *just* using my Les Paul for that.
. They sound great for most other purposes.
--HansM
Although even here the guitars sound artificial as soon as you use the pitch bend. So far I haven't managed to get the MS guitars to sound natural enough in a blues song, so I'm *just* using my Les Paul for that.
. They sound great for most other purposes.--HansM
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 482 posts since 2 Jun, 2004 from West Sussex, UK
The problem that I have is that if you use the pitch bend to bend the note up by two semi tones (as you would on a guitar), you can't then give it vibrato, as you normally would when playing guitar.
Changing the pich bend to (say) 3 or 4 notes makes it harder to control.
In the "Soundsets - Velocity Layered" thread above I asked griels about the possibility of using the mod wheel for vibrato or tremelo. Does anyone know if it's easy to do this?
BTW HansM - I thought your cello stuff was great, and I can't get "It's Clear Now" out of my head!
Alan
Changing the pich bend to (say) 3 or 4 notes makes it harder to control.
In the "Soundsets - Velocity Layered" thread above I asked griels about the possibility of using the mod wheel for vibrato or tremelo. Does anyone know if it's easy to do this?
BTW HansM - I thought your cello stuff was great, and I can't get "It's Clear Now" out of my head!
Alan
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- KVRAF
- 3345 posts since 8 Nov, 2003 from Amsterdam
Use the mod matrix? Connect the mod wheel (CC 1) to either the volume property or to the 'all O and W fine', or whatever it's called...
but griels also did some formant editing to make it sound more real, if I remember correctly...
--HansM
but griels also did some formant editing to make it sound more real, if I remember correctly...
--HansM
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- Mod-ulator
- 2895 posts since 31 Oct, 2000 from "Where I'm to, There I'll be"
Yes ... griels' trick was for making the pitchbend a bit more realistic.
And its not just ManyStation Guitars that are tough to make sound real on certain things .... It's pretty much all sampled Guitars.... But we are trying to do things we can to make it all the more realistic. I think most will agree though, that the guitars in ManyStation are some High Quality playing and sounding Sets. And they are only a start as to where we can try to take it!
Alan ... check out Tims guitars in the TC Bank... they use the Mod wheel in a cool way to modulate the note .. I think it works a treat.
Paul
And its not just ManyStation Guitars that are tough to make sound real on certain things .... It's pretty much all sampled Guitars.... But we are trying to do things we can to make it all the more realistic. I think most will agree though, that the guitars in ManyStation are some High Quality playing and sounding Sets. And they are only a start as to where we can try to take it!
Alan ... check out Tims guitars in the TC Bank... they use the Mod wheel in a cool way to modulate the note .. I think it works a treat.
Paul
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 482 posts since 2 Jun, 2004 from West Sussex, UK
Thanks HansM
I've just had my first go at using the Mod Matrix. I've been so busy playing with MS/WS that I've been a bit lazy about reading the manual.
I've done what you suggested, and the sound is coming along nicely. If only I had a joystick instead of a wheel!
The next thing is - can I simulate feedback? What do you think? Use buckets of reverb?
Alan
I've just had my first go at using the Mod Matrix. I've been so busy playing with MS/WS that I've been a bit lazy about reading the manual.
I've done what you suggested, and the sound is coming along nicely. If only I had a joystick instead of a wheel!
The next thing is - can I simulate feedback? What do you think? Use buckets of reverb?
Alan
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- Mod-ulator
- 2895 posts since 31 Oct, 2000 from "Where I'm to, There I'll be"
Again Alan
Check the TC preset Feedbacker with the Mod wheel
I get lost in a few of those Mod wheel presets!
Check the TC preset Feedbacker with the Mod wheel
I get lost in a few of those Mod wheel presets!
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- KVRAF
- 3345 posts since 8 Nov, 2003 from Amsterdam
yes. You have the best guitarsmanytone wrote:[...]
And its not just ManyStation Guitars that are tough to make sound real on certain things .... It's pretty much all sampled Guitars....
! And for many things they are great samples, for spanish/flamenco style, several rock styles, pop songs... It's just silly that Alan and I want to use them for blues 
--HansM
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- Mod-ulator
- 2895 posts since 31 Oct, 2000 from "Where I'm to, There I'll be"
Hehe
Actually I plan on doing a cool Blues patch on one of the future ManyMores... You know the old E A D Typical Blues 5th 6th 7th Jam thingy It will be mapped cool on the Keyboard But i have to experiment a bit with this ..as again ..It is tough to get realistic... But i am nearly there.
Anyway me Love the Blues and we got some idears a comin'
Including the Old 1970 Les Paul Custom that will be Heavily Sampled sometime in the future
Paul
Actually I plan on doing a cool Blues patch on one of the future ManyMores... You know the old E A D Typical Blues 5th 6th 7th Jam thingy
It will be mapped cool on the Keyboard But i have to experiment a bit with this ..as again ..It is tough to get realistic... But i am nearly there.Anyway me Love the Blues and we got some idears a comin'
Including the Old 1970 Les Paul Custom that will be Heavily Sampled sometime in the future
Paul