KVR Audio

JeffSanders · Post by **JeffSanders** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:19 pm

Cool. Because I don't know what Kingston's been smoking (I want some

) but I've been dinking around with this demo for a few hours, and it's as killer as my UAD-1 Pultec Pro (well...ALMOST), but in a different way.

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:40 pm

Ocean Zen wrote:You can manually compensate for Latency, you know.

Show me a full mix (with complex bussed drums etc) with manual compensation that actually works. That's right, it's hell on earth.

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:42 pm

JeffSanders wrote:Cool. Because I don't know what Kingston's been smoking (I want some ) but I've been dinking around with this demo for a few hours, and it's as killer as my UAD-1 Pultec Pro, but in a different way.

What did I do now? I'm extremely critical about the lack of latency comp, that's all.

I actually LIKE the sound.

I just LOVE being attacked by fanboys... even the last hydratone thread turned into almost unanimous hype. I don't quite understand this. Let's summarise: buggy and sluggish UI with severe accuracy problems, a mandatory heavy and confusing runtime, a mixdown EQ that doesn't report latency (!!!), heavy CPU usage for an EQ, an OK (but new) EQ sound (with crap waveshaper slapped on top).

Just what the hell is all this fuss about?

JeffSanders · Post by **JeffSanders** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:46 pm

No attacks, chief. Just kidding. You're the one waiting to attack, boss.

Fanboy?

I like it. Yes.

chagzuki · Post by **chagzuki** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:50 pm

Gave this a quick try on a bass synth. What a horrifically sluggish interface. I have no idea as to the principles on which this EQ is based - more severe cuts introduce more high frequency distortion? No idea what's going on there and I don't really care. Perhaps trying it over a mix might give a better idea as to what all the fuss is about.

chagzuki · Post by **chagzuki** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:59 pm

OK, I have to admit, I like the way it sounds over a mix. But this is just too sluggish and CPU hungry for me to use at the moment.

StudioTan · Post by **StudioTan** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 6:25 pm

I'm just curious about what apps don't have ADC? I've had no problems concerning this with the demo. I just stick it in a track and forget about it and there's no delay/sync problems. Even so, I agree with Kingston on all the other points, even though I'm reading 6% CPU usage for one instance of the plugin on my P4 3.2GHz system. (I don't know if that's conisdered a lot for a system like mine).

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 6:31 pm

30-40samples isn't much of a latency, true. Untill you start mixing multitracked drums with complex bussing. One track goes out of sync, and everything goes straight to hell. Same applies to all time critical material.

I get around 5-6% CPU here as well on a similar system. It's about double the CPU usage of any track EQ to date. And it's gonna add up WAY too quickly. 10 instances of EQ is quite minimal on any busy project. That's 60% CPU for just mix EQ on the fastest systems available. You're all f**ked.

StudioTan · Post by **StudioTan** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 6:46 pm

I wonder how much the Pluggo interface contributes to its CPU useage. I can see how not having to re-compile code constantly would have an advantage on the creative process, but what's stopping them from compiling the code in a "normal" fashion after all their algorithms are complete? It seems like the Pluggo interface could be used only for the coding process.

JeffSanders · Post by **JeffSanders** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:07 pm

Not to go off-topic, but has anyone tried Valvetone on a bass guitar? Killer.

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:50 pm

I can't get valvetone to work here.

I can hear the demo beep, but there's just no sound going thru it, or any processing happening, just mute..

Lesha · Post by **Lesha** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:28 pm

please, stop whining....

i suggest to everyone who haven't tried it yet - do it now!
don't believe everything you see here.. listen for yourself and enjoy the best software eq available !

StudioTan · Post by **StudioTan** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:13 pm

lesha wrote: don't believe everything you see here.. listen for yourself and enjoy the best software eq available !

Ok, I choose not to believe it's the "best sofware eq available." Thanks for the advice.

rSphere · Post by **rSphere** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:27 pm

just listen for yourself and come to your own conclusion that it's the best software eq ever.

rSphere · Post by **rSphere** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:28 pm

can someone clarify that if the eq does not "report latency" - is it still being automatically compensated for in a DAW such as Cubase SX 3?

Hydratone PC?