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shamann · Post by **shamann** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:10 pm

S_A_P® wrote:Just having a piss is all

No you weren't.

nBeat · Post by **nBeat** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:30 pm

Great buy Torben !

This one also works under Win98.

Wonderful !

...and now finally I can dump my last DX-plugs (dB-PluginPack) in CubaseVST
and use them in Cool Edit only.

Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:48 pm

shamann wrote:
S_A_P® wrote:Just having a piss is all
No you weren't.

shhhhhhh

Torben · Post by **Torben** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:49 pm

nBeat wrote:Great buy Torben !

This one also works under Win98.
Wonderful !

...and now finally I can dump my last DX-plugs (dB-PluginPack) in CubaseVST
and use them in Cool Edit only.

I just send out your license key

I think they all work under win98 after last update.

Thanks
Torben

nBeat · Post by **nBeat** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:00 pm

Torben wrote: I think they all work under win98 after last update.

Yes they do.

Argh, I've finally started planning for XP though.
It's getting harder to find hardware with 98-drivers.
I'm so going to miss my old Cubase.
But, I thinks it's time...

soma · Post by **soma** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:12 pm

Sounds soooooooo great! Haven't even looked to see how much it cost but I'm pretty sure I'll buy.

Improv · Post by **Improv** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:22 pm

Torben wrote:You beat me to the presentation Shifrin

It's a dual processing channel strip with effects made especially for this plugin (no old wine on new bottles here ). This plugin got 10 routings made for instruments and mix setups, it got side chain and mono version etc. The best thing is to try it and you will se it is different from the other plugins mentioned here.

Have fun!
Torben

I'm new to channel strips as well. Could GAC-1 functionally take the place of a small hardware 8 channel mini mixer? I've been thinking of getting a hardware mixer for routing and processing vstis and a bit of real guitar.

Hmmm.....

Improv · Post by **Improv** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:34 pm

Torben wrote: I have thought about a Classic Pro Series!
Torben

What would the general idea of that series be?

egbert · Post by **egbert** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:16 am

Kingston wrote:The bit where I was referring to as RTFM was "As an extra feature, both compressors have a limiting characteristic for input levels higher than 0dBFS."

Yeah - I saw that too but, incorrigible empiricist that I am, I also saw straight away that when inserted as a compressor on a channel I got overs on that channel - no problem but not a brickwall limiter.

As I have often heard people in the band room at my local bar with leather pants and tattoos aver, In digital audio terms, zero overs is the sine qua non of a brickwall limiter.

Who carved the rule in stone that you have to have limiter as the absolute last thing in signal chain anyway?

I just suggested that location so that you would see (and hear) straight away that it does not do what GPP-1, Elephant, Finis and all the other brickwall limiters do - protect you from digital overs.

Myself, I would use GAC-1 on a channel or a group -- the way, if I may borrow a phrase from Hayseed Dixie, the good Lord intended.

(These guys do bluegrass versions of AC/DC tunes like Highway to Hell and in the liner notes to their Let there be Rockgrass it says "Produced and recorded by John Wheeler at Renaissance Recording, Nashville TN, using a bunch of really expensive German microphones and a British mixing console and absolutely no Eq whatsoever, the way the good Lord intended.")

Anyway - this GAC thingummy is a nice bit of kit - enjoy it and use your favorite limiter on the output for bouncing to stereo.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:06 am

In my original post I mainly meant it's like the analogue brick wall limiter counterpart but yeah, I should have been more specific.

Torben · Post by **Torben** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:34 am

db wrote: I'm new to channel strips as well. Could GAC-1 functionally take the place of a small hardware 8 channel mini mixer? I've been thinking of getting a hardware mixer for routing and processing vstis and a bit of real guitar.

Hmmm.....

No, the GAC is used on a track or output bus. It's not a mixer.

db wrote:
Torben wrote: I have thought about a Classic Pro Series!
Torben
What would the general idea of that series be?

It was in response to Funkybot who asked if we where going to make something in between the Classic Series and the Gold Series. We got no actual plans at the moment.

Torben

Improv · Post by **Improv** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:56 am

Torben wrote: No, the GAC is used on a track or output bus. It's not a mixer.

So more of a track polisher? If not how
would you describe it in 10 words or less? (I'm trying to wrap my head around what it's actual purpose is.)
I thought that a channel strip was a single mixer channel?

db wrote:Classic Pro Series!

It was in response to Funkybot who asked if we where going to make something in between the Classic Series and the Gold Series. We got no actual plans at the moment.

Guess my sense of humour was a litre low when I wrote that!

Torben · Post by **Torben** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:11 am

db wrote:I thought that a channel strip was a single mixer channel?

It is! One with both EQ, Compressor, De-esser and noise gate. But the GAC-1 got two compressors and EQ's that can be routed in ten different ways. You won’t find that on no mixer. You have to try it to realize how much better that can make your tracks. Of course you can make allot of the routings manually if your host allows but its more time demanding, you can’t re-use the setup and your project would look like a bowl of spaghetti. It's much easier with the GAC-1.

Torben

Improv · Post by **Improv** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:35 am

Torben wrote:
But the GAC-1 has two compressors and EQ's that can be routed in ten different ways. You won’t find that on any mixer.

Ok, more flexible,

.

You have to try it to realize how much better that can make your tracks.

I'm trying, thus the questions.

I already have all your other Gold Series Plugs, and I'm trying to see how useful this would be to me. This is just a very active hobby/home studio. While I do play a Fender Strat e-guitar, most of the recording is vsti's, no vocals at all. I use Cubase SX 2.2, Tracktion,
and Podium along with Chainer and EXT.
Depends what mood I'm in!

Of course you can make alot of the routings manually if your host allows but its more time demanding, you can’t re-use the setup and your project would look like a bowl of spaghetti. It's much easier with the GAC-1.

Sounds a bit like EXT!

IainDearg · Post by **IainDearg** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:37 am

Tried it last night on two tracks:

1. Stereo fingerstyle acoustic guitar (hard-driven playing): Some good first impressions starting from some of the presets. Could prove useful although I'm not convinced I couldn't live without it given the ability to have 2 X instances each of GEQ-1 and GCO-1 as inserts in Cubase, albeit it series. I have to experiment more with parallel processing, but GEQ-1 does allow for independent treatment of left/right channels of a stereo track. I noticed that the M/S presets affected phase coherence considerably (reported by RME's DigiCheck).

2. I am more convinced by its usefulness (to me) on a mono vocal track. Really impressed with initial results and I want to experiment more.

3. The de-esser is fine however the gate provides no attack adjustment but how many buttons can you fit on this?

I don't do drums, bass, or synths so I can't comment here.

Anyway, I'm going to buy it.. so there!

Edit: I noticed that fine adjustmemnts are achieved with the <Shift> key - not <Ctrl> per the rest of the Gold Series.

Kjaerhus Audio GAC-1 released!