Logic PC:: Again

[Lunch Money]

HI

The FEW things that I found awkward with midi in T1 were the selection of the midi tools - I found myself scrolling up or down the menu ber and quite often 'a glitch?' causes the piano roll to shoot up or down.

OK. I've never had this, but I believe you.

The magnification needs to played with a lot more as the amount of screen was smaller (I have heard this area gets bigger in T2 - thats VERY welcome!).
I found in general that expanding the track view overly sensetive.

I don't get it. How could it be? You just drag. And then you use your mouse scroll wheel to zoom in to a comfortable level. It's all very controllable indeed, and the track itself is a pretty normal size. You might lose a LITTLE screen estate compared to Logic (I don't know for sure), but you can certainly set Tracktion to display multiple measures at a time.[/quote]

In any event, since T2 will be different, I imagine a lot of those needs will be addressed, and that people who imagined that T1's MIDI sucked or just believed people when they said that it did, will give it a new try.

Greg

[braj]

Logic's pianoroll can take the whole screen, so there is less need to scroll or zoom in on stuff. Anyway. T2's out now, checking out the demo and it looks much improved.

[OMU]

Thanks, really appreciate

[popsych]

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Personally, if I were mainly into audio work, I would most likely chose SX or Nuendo (well, maybe Samplitude is even better, still haven't checked the demo) as all sorts of finetunings are easier to achieve. ..............

If audio is most important IMHO go SAMP all the Way. Samp is much better than Cubase for Audio, and Sequoia pips Nuendo to the post. Big fat IMHO
s again here. If anyone doubts these I can elaborate further. That's why i got Samp. Logic = production. Samp = sound engineering, editing, mixing, pre-mastering. Sascha you should try it out.

As for the Cubase can do what Logic can, my main reason for choosing Logic as i indicated in my first post is Ergonomics. All hosts can pretty much do the things i want to notes, but for example only logic will let me draw, lengthen, shorten, delete or select notes with one tool alone.

Quite interesting, Samp is trying to get there. Hope magix steals the coders of the MIDI side of logic from Apple

[Sascha Franck]

As for the Cubase can do what Logic can, my main reason for choosing Logic as i indicated in my first post is Ergonomics. All hosts can pretty much do the things i want to notes, but for example only logic will let me draw, lengthen, shorten, delete or select notes with one tool alone.

Hear hear - I'm EXACTLY in the same boat!
Logic's ergonomics are just incredible IMO - actually, people are allways complaining why there haven't been significant updates featurewise... but whenever you looked for anything handling related (such as new keycommands and the likes), Logic had more improvements than anything else. Just read the Logic update ReadMes, then do the same with some SX update ReadMes... that'll just tell you what developers are focusing on. Cubase = features (whether people need them or not), Logic = ergonomical updates.

Quite interesting, Samp is trying to get there. Hope magix steals the coders of the MIDI side of logic from Apple

Let's see... actually, the bad thing when using Samplitude would be that it's single-platform too.
Very often this has been one of THE reasons for me to use Logic in the past. It was just the most x-platform compatible sequencer ever (and pretty much the reason why I opted for SX rather than for something else).

[popsych]

Let's see... actually, the bad thing when using Samplitude would be that it's single-platform too.
Very often this has been one of THE reasons for me to use Logic in the past. It was just the most x-platform compatible sequencer ever (and pretty much the reason why I opted for SX rather than for something else).

Cross-platform compatibility stopped being an issue for me when as you say the MOST x-platform compatible host, which was equally featured and reliable on both platforms became Mac only. When logic was made single platform i knew that the gates(more like the JOBS) of hell had been oppened and no one was to be safe anymore in this vile place. And for me a tool like Samp is worth the pc alone. After testing all of the hosts and being sorely disappointed i'm actually thinking of getting a reasonably specced inexespensive Mac, produce in L7, use the new export multiple tracks feature and then mix with all my favourite plugin effects on PC as i would definetely miss the effects more than the instruments. The only thing that would not cross over vsti wise would be z3ta but i'll prolly get zebra (:love:) instead. Fair trade. NO?

[stag]

Any one saw the third stooge???
man you´re a gas.
Samplitude ,Hu?? Piramix and Pro tools are out of the loop ,innit.
the real strange thing is seing the bashing on Steinberg on a site dedicated to VST technology .how quaint???:roll: .
about plattform wars i only have one to say :


Grow up

[Sascha Franck]

the real strange thing is seing the bashing on Steinberg on a site dedicated to VST technology .how quaint???:roll: .

Actually, Cubase's VST support is pretty bad.
Yes, it's loading almost all plugins, but the way it treats them is just lame.

[popsych]

Any one saw the third stooge???
man you´re a gas.
Samplitude ,Hu?? Piramix and Pro tools are out of the loop ,innit.
the real strange thing is seing the bashing on Steinberg on a site dedicated to VST technology .how quaint???:roll: .
about plattform wars i only have one to say :


Grow up

Stag. Honestly are you on expired pills or something ? VST technology was just the first thought of implementing plugins in music sofware (not counting rewire). Maybe we should dedicate kvr to adobe for using plugins in photoshop before vst, or whoever thought of the term plugin. The VST format, is nothing spectacular. It's inception is.

.how quaint???:roll: .

You most definetely are.

I never bashed Steinberg. I merely expressed an IMHO, and considering i was on Cubase from v3 until v5.1 when i switched, and having used SX1 and SX2 i think an objective one . Why do you think i switched - hint : Emagic and magix do not give me attractive stock options (sadly ).

And i just said that i will soon probably be using BOTH platforms so i have no platform specific evangelisticissues. Are you a) a non-native speaker of english, b) a native speaker - with the comprehension skills of a lab mouse or C) a native speaker but see top of my post : (

on expired pills or something

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Finally would you care to tell me how nuendo is superior to sequoia audio wise , or cubase to samp ?

[Sascha Franck]

Stag. Honestly are you on expired pills or something ?

At least someone is asking himself the same that I allready did for quite a while...

[braj]

wrong thread

[Moritz Morpheus MkIII]

..braj, confused with all those host-threads?

[stag]

Finally would you care to tell me how nuendo is superior to sequoia audio wise , or cubase to samp ?

Well ,click the Grow up link and you´ll see .
Well the one that migth well check which pills is taken are you both .
I didn´t mind using logic or Samp,i started with a tascam portastudio ,but...
Samplitude lately as implemented VST good for them ,nevertheless cluncky it is has it is their routing,
Samp was the first thing i used on a puter back then DSPF with C console and Samp were the real deal but then ,guess what camed out Nuendo ,and yes ,even Nuendo1 is a more effective tool than Samplitude 8 .
Samp is quircky and uses technology from the time when SCSI was King .

But guess what ,Samplitude or Logic not even for free you´ll see them on my drive.
however if you like them ,you really should know better than I.



so ,where is the third stooge???

[Lunch Money]

on a site dedicated to VST technology

It is? Last time I checked, Ben had acknowledged that it's grown beyond VST now, and even changed the domain name accordingly.......

Greg

[stag]

on a site dedicated to VST technology

It is? Last time I checked, Ben had acknowledged that it's grown beyond VST now, and even changed the domain name accordingly.......

Greg

you´re rigth.