i would like a pdc plugin wrapper or some type of plugin wrapper that i could make up the delay my self! or some sort of auto delay make up. energyXT would be nice if it had pdc but it don't so im not going to up grade untill pdc shows up! does anyone need this or is it just me.
pdc plugin wrapper
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- KVRian
- 587 posts since 18 Jul, 2004
how come there isn't one i would like a pdc plugin wrapper or some type of plugin wrapper that i could make up the delay my self! or some sort of auto delay make up. energyXT would be nice if it had pdc but it don't so im not going to up grade untill pdc shows up! does anyone need this or is it just me.
i would like a pdc plugin wrapper or some type of plugin wrapper that i could make up the delay my self! or some sort of auto delay make up. energyXT would be nice if it had pdc but it don't so im not going to up grade untill pdc shows up! does anyone need this or is it just me.-
- KVRAF
- 3364 posts since 16 Feb, 2004 from atop a katamari
voxengo have a sample delay plug you can use. you can either delay one track before fx or put it on all other tracks to delay them all by the same amount. you set how many samples you need to delay by, and it delays em.
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind.
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silicon/silicium silicon/silicium https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=33009
- KVRAF
- 1758 posts since 13 Jul, 2004
well, either you delay other track, so you can use voxengo's one , or you have "general" pdc. you cannot have pdc in a host that doesn't have, how the plug in will receive audio and midi before the host send them??? that's a bit stupid question.
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- KVRAF
- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
No it's not. wsaidah clearly doesn't understand what is required to implement pdc, but that doesn't make him/her/it stupid. Just uninformed.silicon/silicium wrote:that's a bit stupid question.
wsaidah, plugin delay compensation is something that is out of the plugin's hands. It it totally up to the host to implement. A wrapper plugin will not make a host compensate for a delay in some plugins if it doesn't already.
As haydxn wrote, the best you can do is find out how much latency a plugin uses, and manually delay all your other audio streams by that amount (typically by using a precise delay plugin).
Forever,
Kim.
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- KVRist
- 261 posts since 31 Oct, 2003
so trueJeez wrote:No it's not. wsaidah clearly doesn't understand what is required to implement pdc, but that doesn't make him/her/it studio.silicon/silicium wrote:that's a bit stupid question.
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- KVRAF
- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
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- KVRist
- 301 posts since 5 Jun, 2004
Actually yours is a stupid reply.silicon/silicium wrote:well, either you delay other track, so you can use voxengo's one , or you have "general" pdc. you cannot have pdc in a host that doesn't have, how the plug in will receive audio and midi before the host send them??? that's a bit stupid question.
A host needs information from plugins as to how much latency these have.
A plugin may have latency but it may not report it to the host e.g. : pluggo until this recent release. If you had a pdc plugin you could specify the latency of the plugin in question (assuming it was known - or you measured it) and that's what it would report back to your PDC enabled host smarta***
Sorry if i sounded harsh but before bashing other people make sure you have the facts right.
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silicon/silicium silicon/silicium https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=33009
- KVRAF
- 1758 posts since 13 Jul, 2004
you defintly can do that easily with voxengo delay: the voxengo report a delay you manually set, and the host just compensate.
it has nothing to do with wrapping a plug in that has latency in a host that don't have pdc. "some sort of auto delay make up" isn't possible without a host that understand pdc, you cannot have a wrapper thing that compasate latency if you host don't.
it has nothing to do with wrapping a plug in that has latency in a host that don't have pdc. "some sort of auto delay make up" isn't possible without a host that understand pdc, you cannot have a wrapper thing that compasate latency if you host don't.
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- KVRist
- 410 posts since 8 Jan, 2004 from Switzerland
Would it be not easier to move only the track that has latency?manually delay all your other audio streams by that amount
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- KVRian
- 880 posts since 22 Jan, 2005
dramsenik wrote:Would it be not easier to move only the track that has latency?manually delay all your other audio streams by that amount
Ok, I'm a newbie, so... but: Can this really be done? I mean, wouldn't this require to insert a negative delay value to the fx with delay?
Please explain this method to me. I want the easiest solution. I also read somewhere that you can do this with the send fx. How?
I'm using Renoise, btw.
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- KVRian
- 951 posts since 11 Jan, 2004 from Netherlands
PDC is something the host has to do. So, for example, such a plug-in would need to look at the delays of each plugin on each track and instruct the host to delay every track in the appropriate manner. Track delays are not accessible from the VST environment (as far as I know). Addressing the host directly would be different for each host.
It's not impossible, but a host with PDC is a more elegant solution.
It's not impossible, but a host with PDC is a more elegant solution.
