A stupid thought...
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- KVRAF
- 1891 posts since 9 Oct, 2004 from Columbus,Ohio
Last night I heard a long thing on Nanotechnology. Bet your asking why in the hell I posted in this forum about it? Well, I heard about the battery by a specific company created using Nantechnology, It recharges 80% within a minute. And me being addicted to music technology, I asked myself "I wonder what this could hold for music DSP or anything music related?". Any Thoughts on it? It's always best to apply new technologies to a certain field. For instance with Synths, when they first switched over to digital OSC. Then obviously using computers as a DAW. I was just wondering if anyone has had thoughts about it before?
- Beware the Quoth
- 35505 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Handy for laptops, and erm, portable stuff with batteries.
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An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRist
- 307 posts since 21 Jan, 2005
For what it's worth BT talks alot of nano-shite....not to power a DAW but utilizing nano-seconds as a creative tool (that's why his music is so good
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Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real.
-Niels Bohr
-Niels Bohr
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- KVRian
- 588 posts since 14 Feb, 2003 from Rural splendour (Up North, England)
I think nanotechnology has a lot more going for it (in the long term) than just better batteries. Using a grid of tiny processors (generically known as "smart dust") could be very efficient for synthesis and effects as the calculations needed tend to decompose nicely which suits parallel (and, therefore, massively parallel) processing more than serial processing. Imagine having a desktop/notebook computer (call it a PC if you want to but it won't be like today's PCs) which can dynamically reallocate 512 of it's 1024 processors to a particularly taxing convolution reverb calculation after it's finished using them to calculate the sound you want to make while the rest are continuing to shape the rest of your sounds.
You can forget magnetic discs too - there are far more efficient, physically smaller but larger capacity devices on the way.
I reckon 7-10 years before this is mainstream. Like any new technology there will be a lot of dead ends, misinformation and high costs for the early adopters but it will start to become part of everyday computing over time.
Regards,
Derek.
You can forget magnetic discs too - there are far more efficient, physically smaller but larger capacity devices on the way.
I reckon 7-10 years before this is mainstream. Like any new technology there will be a lot of dead ends, misinformation and high costs for the early adopters but it will start to become part of everyday computing over time.
Regards,
Derek.
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
i would say 7-10 years before it appears, but I highly doubt it will be mainstream in that time.
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- KVRian
- 588 posts since 14 Feb, 2003 from Rural splendour (Up North, England)
It's already appeared (i.e. is working in the labs at the desired scale). There's no mass production capability yet, hence my guess of 7-10 years before real "buy it in the high street" commercial availability.Chase wrote:i would say 7-10 years before it appears, but I highly doubt it will be mainstream in that time.
Wonder if there'll still be a KvR in 7-10 years - if there is, and it's got a well organised archive, then one of us will be able to say "there you go - told you so"
Regards,
Derek.
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- KVRian
- 588 posts since 14 Feb, 2003 from Rural splendour (Up North, England)
Say this today (not nano technology but the next generation of small magnetic disc drives):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4411649.stm
Terabyte iPods here we come
Regards,
Derek.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4411649.stm
Terabyte iPods here we come
Regards,
Derek.
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- KVRAF
- 8389 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
With smart dust synths there could be the prospect of sneezing and a whole gig needs to be abandoned.. Or the lead singer accidentally snorts the latest patch and is alarmed to find his vocal ability enhanced by a deeper moog filter. "Man he can really do that 'Cher' effect can't he" "You should hear it when he screams like a..."
I personally think it not the greatest step forward ever. People assume that new is progress - I'm not convinced. I'm a programmer, and have the bizarre situation everyday that once the electrics are off at the end of the day, there is no evidence of me having done anything. A Carpenter has a table to show, a plumber can point you to your new bathroom. I can't even be sure which electrons I affected today, or where they are now.
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I personally think it not the greatest step forward ever. People assume that new is progress - I'm not convinced. I'm a programmer, and have the bizarre situation everyday that once the electrics are off at the end of the day, there is no evidence of me having done anything. A Carpenter has a table to show, a plumber can point you to your new bathroom. I can't even be sure which electrons I affected today, or where they are now.
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- KVRAF
- 7936 posts since 18 Feb, 2003 from out there somewhere
OT, but I know what you mean. I have a unrewarding job that pays the bills, other than that I line the pockets of the board and shareholders, wow. It struck me most when my daughter was born. There we were in theatre at 4am on a Sunday morning, surrounded by excellent staff and I thought "apart from maybe the anaesthetist, I probably earn more than all of you, which can't be right".duncanparsons wrote: I'm a programmer, and have the bizarre situation everyday that once the electrics are off at the end of the day, there is no evidence of me having done anything. A Carpenter has a table to show, a plumber can point you to your new bathroom. I can't even be sure which electrons I affected today, or where they are now.
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- Narcissistic Messiah
- 4565 posts since 8 Apr, 2002 from https://soundcloud.com/remcoh
Further miniaturisation and unlimited processing capability is absolute subordinate to a simple elemental thing like idea .. nanobots in bloodstreams cleaning up the human body and nanobots in the brain compensating human shortcomings sure sound like fanciful. Than again cold fusion would be fanciful to but i guarantee you the moment it's there the
atomic handgun will be a fact to. Us human beings have the strange quality to put up something just as destructive when we build something constructive. don't even try to fathom human nature - it's fascination for evil and good will always be there and i find the sticks and stones very comforting when compared to nowadays technology. Now sit down and imagine what Adolph Hitler would have done with nowadays technology. Don't you think Mussolini would have easily succeeded in his plan to kill all the citizens of Ethiopia ? I have a love hate relationship with computers. I find all nowadays technology as fascinating as freighting. As for music - the computer often fails me - my voice and my mind never did. I'm curious what the next 10 year will bring, in the meanwhile most science fiction series from the 60`s opening with the year 2005 often show a very outdated state of technology. Fingerscan doors - c'mon we all know cutting off fingers is so much more easy as cutting out eyeballs ... Disks - c'mon why use disks if we have wireless - control panels - damn they sure imagined them to be huge
atomic handgun will be a fact to. Us human beings have the strange quality to put up something just as destructive when we build something constructive. don't even try to fathom human nature - it's fascination for evil and good will always be there and i find the sticks and stones very comforting when compared to nowadays technology. Now sit down and imagine what Adolph Hitler would have done with nowadays technology. Don't you think Mussolini would have easily succeeded in his plan to kill all the citizens of Ethiopia ? I have a love hate relationship with computers. I find all nowadays technology as fascinating as freighting. As for music - the computer often fails me - my voice and my mind never did. I'm curious what the next 10 year will bring, in the meanwhile most science fiction series from the 60`s opening with the year 2005 often show a very outdated state of technology. Fingerscan doors - c'mon we all know cutting off fingers is so much more easy as cutting out eyeballs ... Disks - c'mon why use disks if we have wireless - control panels - damn they sure imagined them to be huge
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- Tunesmith
- 2889 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Toronto
Cosmic Bandito wrote:For what it's worth BT talks alot of nano-shite....not to power a DAW but utilizing nano-seconds as a creative tool (that's why his music is so good)
