Cubase SX 2 with playing vst instruments live

[vaix]

Hello,

I've come to to a following problem. Maybe someone of you guys could help me out.

I'm using my laptop running cubase sx2 for live playing. I added a seperate track for each vst instrument and reason instrument I wanted to play and switched between them via laptop's keyboard.

But now I upgraded my system with an Oberheim MC-1000 master keyboard which has quite powerful master features and now I'd like to use another system. I'd like to define a different midi channel for each instrument I play and switch these channels on my keyboard. Cubase has midi channel parameter in track properties, but this is midi out only. Whatever channel I choose it still recieves for whatever channel I send.

So my question is, how could I filter out other channels than needed or maybe there is another nifty way to do all this... Please help me

Thx

[.jon]

There's always a solution, in VST & MIDI routing problems it's usually even the same one

[SJ_Digriz]

As pakana points out there's always a solution. There are stupid solutions to simple problems, like using energy xt for this problem. Or there is the built in channel way that is already there.

Vaix, you need to use the "input transformer". It is a button on the inspector in the very first dialog. When you click on the button choose "local mode" and then in the dialog that comes up choose a preset from the bottom right of the dialog. It will let you assign a specific channel to be let through. Also, if you wanted you could make a custom one that lets any combination of channels/message in. It will also modify the incoming data based on rules you set up.

[haydxn]

there are also stupid people who think they're special.

xt is not a stupid solution. if anything is, using cubase for live work is stupid. xt can do this in a much lighter way. this is not a dig at the question's poster - this is a punch at SJ

[SJ_Digriz]

there are also stupid people who think they're special.

xt is not a stupid solution. if anything is, using cubase for live work is stupid. xt can do this in a much lighter way. this is not a dig at the question's poster - this is a punch at SJ

So using an external plugin to do what the built in channel has already built in is a smart thing to do? ok, whatever. I suppose you could insert a volume fader too. Screw it, why have channels in Hosts at all. Just a file menu so I can load XT thanks. This is a smack at haydxn.

[haydxn]

no, just use XT instead as it is ideal for such live performance duties and is far lighter than cubase. this is a swing of a mighty iron leg at SJ

[SJ_Digriz]

vaix: "How do I get to Bubba's grocery store?"

haydxn/pakana: "Well, you get in a taxi..go to the airport, fly to Texas, get a connecting flight back, get another taxi, tell the driver which store you want to go to and he'll take you there"

SJ_Digriz: "wtf? it's 2 doors down"

[haydxn]

or

vaix: "i'm trying to do something live and i'm having trouble with my software. any suggestions - or maybe there is another nifty way to do all this..."

haydxn/pakana: "well, there's this small program that just happens to be great for doing live things, especially seeing as cubase is quite a bloated program to have running in a live situation just for performance. just an alternative approach to add to your options"

SJ_Digriz: "any alternative suggestions are stupid! you must only use cubase!"

[SJ_Digriz]

I'm using SX....So my question is, how could I filter out other channels than needed..

My answer was how to do it in SX a program he already has, your reply was use a different program. hmm... who is the nutter?

especially seeing as cubase is quite a bloated program

Bloat is in the ear of the beholder. Just because it has features YOU don't know how to use or don't want to use doesn't mean it is bloated.

But I will admit that if I was going to use a PC for live performance that I would use a program like Forte instead of Cubase. But that wasn't the question at hand.

[haydxn]

it's perfectly okay for me to say that cubase is too bloated for simple live performance. you don't really have any point. what's wrong with suggesting alternatives? you've just said now that you'd use a different program too. alternatives are not exactly banned, are they.

[SJ_Digriz]

alternatives are not exactly banned, are they.

No dude, but when he asked how do I do xxx in Cubase and your answer is "use a different program" that is a little over the top don't you think? Especially when what he wants to do is so freakin simple in Cubase.

But, make sure you know I'm mostly just messing with you because of the "slap" comment. I took that in a fun way so don't get all angry please.

[haydxn]

[vaix]

thx for your interesting answer

I'm using Cubase because of the fact, that I need to control propellerhead reason. I'm well aware of the energy xt and I find it a very useful and great program, but it doesn't support reason and reason isn't vst, so I can't use it

thx again for your reply...

[EKen]

Hi,
I am pretty sure you can route a specific midi channel to a specific track in Cubase SX2, if not for sure in SX3. You can use the free Midi YOKE (google it) to reroute things. It creates a new set of midi devices. I use bidule (plogue.com) for live play which has been free and has hundreds of midi routing and midi effects options. You can do splits, changes, and much more. It is extremely simple to use and supports vst and rewire. Best of all it has been free. It expires every four months and you have to download a new version but it has been free. On most of my VST plugins, the CPU usage is half what it is in SX (HALF!). No glitches live, unless it is a bad plugin....

I now use Ableton Live more than anything, but that will cost you..

For hardware routing midisolutions has products that will also do things live, based on mappings you create using sysex.

[LBN]

if anything is, using cubase for live work is stupid.