KVR Audio

Tinfish · Post by **Tinfish** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:18 am

Ok Muku, I got it going, thanks! I just clicked on chanel 10 (at the bottom of Chainer and put U-tonic in that slot, then I canged the midi 'channel' number from 'all' to number three, and its working a treat on its own now without the keyboard getting in the way

Thanks again

T

muku · Post by **muku** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:18 am

Tinfish wrote:Muku,

In Chainer, on the drop down tab where you select Instruments etc, it says Input - and you can add an Input to a slot if you select it. Any idea where that input comes from or what it does? Could I for example run u-Tonic in another host then 'input' it through Chainer that way?

Well..that's for audio input
from your soundcard so.....
maybe yes...that might work

(No luck with the midi 1 and 2 fix u suggested, this keyboard is a single midi thingummy mk-1

Bummer...it was worth a try

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Ok Muku, I got it going, thanks! I just clicked on chanel 10 (at the bottom of Chainer and put U-tonic in that slot, then I canged the midi 'channel' number from 'all' to number three, and its working a treat on its own now without the keyboard getting in the way ...thanks to your 'input'.

Yay! Cool....now your set.
u-Tonic is a cool plugin yeah?

Tinfish · Post by **Tinfish** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:22 am

>u-Tonic is a cool plugin yeah?
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Sure is!
A great find

muku · Post by **muku** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:31 am

Tinfish wrote:Ok Muku, I got it going, thanks! I just clicked on chanel 10 (at the bottom of Chainer and put U-tonic in that slot, then I canged the midi 'channel' number from 'all' to number three, and its working a treat on its own now without the keyboard getting in the way
T

hmmm ....that tends to indicate
that your Creative keyboard
is outputting midi on one
channel...be worth finding out
which channel that is......

Tinfish · Post by **Tinfish** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:39 am

I think I need a real midi keyboard

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muku · Post by **muku** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:41 am

Tinfish wrote:I think I need a real midi keyboard
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lol
We all need one of them mate!
There's nothing wrong with my
setup that $100,000 wouldn't
fix!

Tinfish · Post by **Tinfish** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:36 am

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We all need one of them mate!
There's nothing wrong with my
setup that $100,000 wouldn't
fix![/quote]

Too true! ..but an $85 midi keyboard would do me for now

Another question if I may? Now that Ive got u-Tonic running in Chainer - without any midi keyboard input - is there any way I can make u-tonic trigger a vst synth in another slot in chainer? As it is now, I can get u-tonic to pump out some great beats but the rythm is less changeable since I removed the midi keyboard input ....so I'd like to try and make the rythm trigger another synth if pos.

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whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:08 am

Dont think so; AFAIK Chainer doesnt let plugins modify and pass on MIDI, and Im not even sure if uTonic outputs MIDI; I'd suspect not.

If yo're looking for a host that lets you set up multiple chans of synths and effects, try looking at energyXT; it will handle MIDI routing as well.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:23 am

Another question if I may? Now that Ive got u-Tonic running in Chainer - without any midi keyboard input - is there any way I can make u-tonic trigger a vst synth in another slot in chainer? As it is now, I can get u-tonic to pump out some great beats but the rythm is less changeable since I removed the midi keyboard input ....so I'd like to try and make the rythm trigger another synth if pos.

If you use Energy XT you can - I've run Kontakt samples using u-tonic demo outputting midi (it does output midi WR). But doesn't work in Chainer for reasons stated; you need more flexible routing to cut off u-tonic's audio without stopping it playing and route it's midi out to another instrument (btw I've even run my hardware synth from a VSTi outputting midi though not this one).

Tinfish · Post by **Tinfish** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:25 am

Thanks AM ...and Whyte, I'll look into that.

Meanwhile, good luck with 'chasing Alice

muku · Post by **muku** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:36 am

Tinfish wrote:Another question if I may? Now that Ive got u-Tonic running in Chainer - without any midi keyboard input - is there any way I can make u-tonic trigger a vst synth in another slot in chainer?

No......
µTonic does not have midi out

As it is now, I can get u-tonic to pump out some great beats but the rythm is less changeable since I removed the midi keyboard input ....so I'd like to try and make the rythm trigger another synth if pos.

You know you can chain patterns together in µTonic?

Another thing you could do is record the output of
µTonic then use a sample player VST to play back the wav files.
Your problems are mainly caused by the limitations of
Chainer....

Tinfish · Post by **Tinfish** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:00 am

Your problems are mainly caused by the limitations of
Chainer....
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Yes, thanks. I'm trying out EnergyXT now. It doesent look nearly as good as Chainer, but if it can the extra stuff then Ill go for it.

From the UK to Australia on this cold but calm grey Spring morning ...over and out for now

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:08 am

energtXT can be reskinned, if you dont like its look. And it can do way more than Chainer; or just pretty much the same; its your choice....

muku · Post by **muku** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:10 am

Tinfish wrote:Your problems are mainly caused by the limitations of ChainerYes, thanks. I'm trying out EnergyXT now. It doesent look nearly as good as Chainer, but if it can the extra stuff then Ill go for it.

You didn't jump on the free version of Tracktion
when it was avaiable?

muku · Post by **muku** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:14 am

Tinfish wrote:....I'm trying out EnergyXT....doesent look nearly as good as Chainer......

EnergyXT is a VST host ...so you should be able to run
the VST version of chainer inside EnergyXT.

Best of both worlds.

CHAINER USERS - a question for you.........