Get a better singing teacher!!!!!!!M'Snah wrote:After a couple of singing lessons my tutor told me it's useless to take more lessons, that it's better to use something like Autotune or Pitchright. Autotune is too expensive for my budget, but Pitchright seems like a decent product, although a few years old.
Any good advice on good pitch correction software? Doesn't have to be free, as long as it's not too much over $100...
Pitchright?
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- KVRian
- 601 posts since 5 Mar, 2005 from A bordello in Moscow
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- KVRAF
- 1617 posts since 2 Dec, 2003
Lunch Money wrote:ttoz wrote:will it be able to do "that" effect?
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It can do more interesting things than that, but yes, it can. Differently, though. In Autotune, you just set a scale and it'll lock your notes to that scale. In CarToon, Jeez approached the tuning issue differently. In auto mode, it is chromatic, so no instant "that effect" gratification there. BUT, it can be controlled by MIDI input, which is ultimately more flexible and useful. The great thing about the MIDI implementation is that you can play any signal as an instrument, or just fly in one note at a time to correct occasional errors.
Very interesting things can be done by using it in a way it wasn't strictly intended for.
It should come with an algorithm that will destroy a person's project files if they try to do "that effect" , though. <grin>
Greg

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- KVRAF
- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
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- "The" Jazz
- 4618 posts since 18 Aug, 2004 from California, United States
I say don't even bother with buying expensive pitch correctors, just overdub. When you play at live shows you can bring your walkman, and be sure the soundmen leave your vocal mic off. That should be easy for them to do...M'Snah wrote:After a couple of singing lessons my tutor told me it's useless to take more lessons, that it's better to use something like Autotune or Pitchright. Autotune is too expensive for my budget, but Pitchright seems like a decent product, although a few years old.
Any good advice on good pitch correction software? Doesn't have to be free, as long as it's not too much over $100...
Autotune will just put your singing in perfect pitch, but it won't make it good singing. In fact, usually you have to be able to hit the notes pretty on otherwise the pitch corrector makes it sound kinda weird. Pitch correctors don't improve the tone of your singing. Go out and find a better vocal instructor.
Greg Schlaepfer
Orange Tree Samples
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- KVRian
- 769 posts since 2 Apr, 2005
Everybody's using them though. A savagely autotuned vocal can be mixed with your normal pitchy vocals for a modern chorus effect. I'm sure Greenday and many others are doing this.
- "The" Jazz
- 4618 posts since 18 Aug, 2004 from California, United States
Oh certainly everyone (and probably seriously everyone) uses them in recordings. Fewer people use them at live gigs. The point is, if you are a bad singer, all autotune does is make you an in-tune bad singer.greendoor wrote:Everybody's using them though. A savagely autotuned vocal can be mixed with your normal pitchy vocals for a modern chorus effect. I'm sure Greenday and many others are doing this.
Greg Schlaepfer
Orange Tree Samples
Ultra-realistic sample libraries for Kontakt
Orange Tree Samples
Ultra-realistic sample libraries for Kontakt
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- KVRian
- 769 posts since 2 Apr, 2005
I don't know about that ... excellent singers can still sing off pitch, but if it's a perfect take it's a shame not to use it. I had to mix some backing vocals recently that were well over 50 cents sharp. I just tuned them with Cubase SX3 pitch shifter, and they were fine. I would go so far to say this: if the singer is singing flat or sharp, blame the engineer. Seriously. Our perception of pitch changes with volume. If your monitors are way too loud, your singer will have pitch problems. Ever watch American Idol and heard outrageous pitch problems but the judges are giving the thumbs up? I would guess they are exposed to very loud sound pressure, and they can't tell - but tv listeners can. Other, very subjective, things can distort pitch perception. Like color changes and other wierd stuff. There is no shame in need a bit of pitch correction.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Nothing's changed recently-- still awaiting pluggo update. Kim's a Betabug, and this is one that's being released through BBA, so it is indeed Kim's plugin with a BetabugsAudio GUI.ttoz wrote:Is this basically Kim's plugin with a betabugs gui? same algo?
will we still need pluggo runtime and quicktime?
We're investigating an installer that will take care of Quicktime and Pluggo in one shot, but there are complications, particularly with Quicktime. I've never quite understood how QT fits into it anyhow, but something in the plug-in calls the QT runtime, anyhow.
Greg
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- KVRAF
- 1981 posts since 26 Oct, 2003 from Toronto
(munch-munch-munch...) CarToon you say Doc? That sounds pretty snazzy! Yep...
But how does it do for those who want to, I don't know - sound like a crazy duck? Or a short little pistol packin' cowboy that never knows when to quit? Huh, Doc? Huh?
Ain't I stinker!
(Sounds good though guys - looking foward to it.
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But how does it do for those who want to, I don't know - sound like a crazy duck? Or a short little pistol packin' cowboy that never knows when to quit? Huh, Doc? Huh?
Ain't I stinker!
(Sounds good though guys - looking foward to it.


