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BONES · Post by **BONES** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:51 pm

Anyone got it or seen it? The second disc is full of interviews etc. It seems that FuturePerfect was all done in Logic 5.5 with its instruments and Reaktor. He kind of goes through the process without actually telling you too much but its still kind fo cool that he's proud of the fact.
As an interesting aside, apparantly they were recently caught-out with a "guide" vocal on their live backing tape.[/b]

MadGav · Post by **MadGav** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:00 pm

Burning Empires sounds beefy.
Futureperfect sounds weedy.
Matter and Form sounds beefy.

Discuss.

origami · Post by **origami** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:01 pm

interesting, though I must admit I've never liked VNV Nation.

regarding the use of software, another similar band you must know, Assemblage 23, mentions among their list of used equipment, reaktor, albino AND CM-101, one of the synths from Computer Music!!

LBN · Post by **LBN** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:28 pm

In an interview on the NI site Ronan Harris also mentions using reFX's PlastiCZ and Juno X2. He also speaks highly of Ninja.

op519 · Post by **op519** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:30 pm

MadGav wrote:Burning Empires sounds beefy.
Futureperfect sounds weedy.
Matter and Form sounds beefy.

Discuss.

well they used hardware on the Burning Empires and Matter and Form and I guess they didn't use VazMod on Future Perfect

VNV is one of the bands I hate to love. Call it my guilty pleasure I guess.

About the dvd, it would have been interesting if they went into a bit more detail then they did. But just goes to show that it doesn't matter what you use, just how you use it.

BONES wrote:As an interesting aside, apparantly they were recently caught-out with a "guide" vocal on their live backing tape.

Well everything else is on backing tape, why not some guide vocals

I am really not at all suprised by that. Sucks but isn't suprising.

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:50 pm

BONES wrote:Anyone got it or seen it? The second disc is full of interviews etc. It seems that FuturePerfect was all done in Logic 5.5 with its instruments and Reaktor. He kind of goes through the process without actually telling you too much but its still kind fo cool that he's proud of the fact.
As an interesting aside, apparantly they were recently caught-out with a "guide" vocal on their live backing tape.[/b]

Too bad their music sucks ass.

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:25 pm

Actually their music is just plain mediocre... their vocals however REALLY suck ass.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:34 pm

I only liked Praise the Fallen. It had an edge to it that is missing from their other stuff. Empires was krap and I haven't even listened to FurturePerfect. As for the backing DVD [which he mentions a couple of times], what scares me is that its become so accepted. We make an audio CD as a failsafe in case we have a catastrophic mishap on stage but all our sound is generated live from our PC or hardware. Even KMFDM just have audio tracks loaded in ProTools which I don't see as much different from a backing tape, in that it will sound exactly the same night after night.
Mind you, KMFDM had played exactly the same set for almost 100 gigs on their world tour, which I also think is bollocks. OTOH, I saw a Robert Smith interview where he said the Cure had rehearsed over 100 songs for a tour so that whenever they played two shows in the same city, they could play completely different sets each night and if fans were following them around they would't have to listen to the same songs night after night. That, to my mind, is professionalism.

deggy · Post by **deggy** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:23 am

actually, the guys in my old band met assemblage when they played an ebm festival in canada some time ago. at that time, they were all about the hardware synths and reaktor, or so my friend says but he isn't the most trustworthy guy around. i also have to say, they really blow goats live. too bad, because And One and Beborn really rocked pretty hard the night before. oh, and VNV sucks donkeys live unless you like watching kareoke.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:35 am

Yeah, I couldn't sit through the concert DVD in one session. Although they do actually play synths in the last track. The really sad bit is that he justified teh "guide" vocal track by saying how exhausting it is poncing around like a goose on stage.

deggy · Post by **deggy** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:44 am

two words - britney spears

plastic · Post by **plastic** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:47 am

i was quite shocked when i saw Laibach because everything came from tape, including all vocals. i think they didn't even use a different mix than the album versions.
i don't understand how anyone can perform that way.

digitalmessiah · Post by **digitalmessiah** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:49 am

origami wrote:another similar band you must know, Assemblage 23, mentions among their list of used equipment, reaktor, albino AND CM-101, one of the synths from Computer Music!!

i was reading, i think it was, electronic musician mag's interview of BT and he revealed using RotoPuker synthedit synth!! so im not suprised that assemblage uses cm synths.

deggy · Post by **deggy** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:59 am

bt sometimes massages the truth a little in his interviews i think (though i could never prove it)

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:07 am

Here's what really annoyed me about the live DVD. I preordered the so-called special edition, so I got it right when it came out. There was a link on the second DVD to some bonus online content. The link didn't work for a couple of weeks after I had the DVD. When it finally did work, all it said was some nonsense about not releasing the online content until the DVD was available in all markets. As of my last look (perhaps 3 months ago), there was still no bonus online content available!

Thanks for nothing...

I think the real gem of the DVD is the hidden track with VNV and Assemblage 23 doing a duet. Its hilarious, in a pathetic sort of way...

VNV Nation DVD