KVR Audio

nezumi_jajauma · Post by **nezumi_jajauma** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:58 pm

Hello there!

This is probably the easiest thing in the world to do with any sampler, but I'm clueless. Please help me out without telling me to find another hobby, or such. I like this a lot. OK! Here's my question:

How can I make a part of a sample able to repea... -- well, not repeat -- but go on forever.
If I sing the word "sofa", for example. How can I make it turn out to sound like "soooooooooooooooooooooofa", or "sooofaaaaaaaa"? Cutting it up and repeating the "o" just doesn't do the job. And I have no better ideas since I'm not too good at what I do. Also, what would be a good solution if I want to grab that "o" and play it (just that) around on my keyboard? In order words... which sampler does a good job doing just that? Will a free one work fine? Which?

Thanks in advance, kind helpers!
If I need to better explain exactly what I mean for you to understand, don't hesitate to tell me.

nezumijajauma

rbet · Post by **rbet** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:07 am

nice Q... I'd like to know too. I am new at this. I have seen my friend do similar stuff in Kontakt.

scamme · Post by **scamme** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:16 am

One of your options.

Kim Lajoie · Post by **Kim Lajoie** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:50 am

The term you seek is timestretching. Now google yourself silly...

Forever,

Kim.

ouroboros · Post by **ouroboros** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:56 am

part of the answer depends on what sampler or effect you are using. In a sampler, for instance, you can define the sustain envelope to play the "ah" sound, so that the phoneme repeats for as long as a note is depressed, and finishes(releases) when you lift off.

There are also effects, such as smartelectronix buffer override thing that takes a sample of the audio it receives and then triggers it again and again in wierd ways. their plugin slifty does the same thing, I believe.

@Jeez: Is this timestretching? I guess I thought that if the sample was pitched, say down, in the word sofa, the "a" would not repeat, but just become very long and low, so instead of So-faaaaaaaa, you would hear, "sssssssooooooooofffffffffaaaaaaaa"?

hope that helps.

rbet · Post by **rbet** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:19 am

it does help ouro, thanks!

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:22 am

You could also hire a technical writer or politician. That way if you input "turn it on," at the output you'd hear "perform an actuation process to provision the system with sufficient electrical power for operation." Or for an input of "let's take the bus," you might hear "it is preferable that we should utilize a public conveyance."

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:54 am

Check out Leapfrog's Rephrase. It has very easy to use envelopes for timestretching, so you can isolate parts of a word really well. Version 1.2 is supposed to be coming out soon, with a revised sound engine.

rbet · Post by **rbet** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:04 am

Meffy you jestertroll!

Kim Lajoie · Post by **Kim Lajoie** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:06 am

ouroboros wrote:@Jeez: Is this timestretching? I guess I thought that if the sample was pitched, say down, in the word sofa, the "a" would not repeat, but just become very long and low, so instead of So-faaaaaaaa, you would hear, "sssssssooooooooofffffffffaaaaaaaa"?

Well, you could just timestretch parts of words to get the effect you want.

This is probably not very helpful, but I've done similar things in realtime (performance!) by loading a vocal phrase into SampleTank2, enabling STRETCH mode, and assigning a midi controller to playback speed. Cool stuff.

Forever,

Kim.

greendoor · Post by **greendoor** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:25 am

Melodyne does this for you automatically.

Kim Lajoie · Post by **Kim Lajoie** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:38 am

greendoor wrote:Melodyne does this for you automatically.

Even reads your mind to determine which syllables to stretch, and by how much?

Forever,

Kim.

jack [psychicmodulation] · Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:43 am

Meffy wrote:You could also hire a technical writer or politician. That way if you input "turn it on," at the output you'd hear "perform an actuation process to provision the system with sufficient electrical power for operation." Or for an input of "let's take the bus," you might hear "it is preferable that we should utilize a public conveyance."

nezumi_jajauma · Post by **nezumi_jajauma** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:07 pm

Perfect! Will try out several (if not all) methods mentioned, and see which fits me best. Doesn't sound like a big deal, really. Though we'll see about that. But I will probably (hopefully) manage without further help from here on. Thanks a lot for all the replies! Very appreciated.

greendoor · Post by **greendoor** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:59 am

Jeez wrote:
greendoor wrote:Melodyne does this for you automatically.
Even reads your mind to determine which syllables to stretch, and by how much?

Nearly - it's very intelligent. I think it looks for the obviously sustained parts of a sound, and performs the time stretch on those. Rather than a totally un-intelligent timestretcher that just stretches everything. I haven't bought Melodyne - it's too expensive, but there are cut down versions, like the new single channel one thats for mac only at this point

I haven't found a more musical or easy to use pitch/time tool yet.

Making short words long, if you know what I mean (and more)