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Ohhhhhhhh thank you ! You are great man! :hail:

here is one little part of my sound not mixed yet ...it is on composition stage.... :oops:

http://www.cmusicforum.com/dimitar/Peace.mp3
Block Fish + Warp VST on guitar and
DFH2 + Block Fish on drums

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Drums: Vintage Warmer, or Neodynium (for extreme Dave Fridman-esque drum compression craziness), on overheads, groups, etc. Using BFD. I'll use the GCO-1 for compression on individual channels if needed, and might use Eqium for some top end on the overheads. Mostly it's just straight BFD with pan and volume making up the sound.

Bass: GCO-1 (I came up with a great opto preset that just rocks on a live rock bass) and Timeworks EQ.

Guitars: Timeworks EQ, or Eqium based on what I need to do. If I'm mostly cutting Timeworks EQ will do, but if I want to to add some air I may opt for Eqium. If it's an acoustic guitar though, I'll usually reach for Eqium first as it does generally sound better to me.

Vocals: GCO-1, and Timeworks EQ, though now that I have the GAC-1 I think this may take over the main role.

Reverb: On a hard rock song, little to none, though I will use just a touch on the vocals. I follow the Steve Albini philosophy of "reverb sucks" when it comes to balls out rock songs. If you can hear it, it's too much.
I'm sorry this post wasn't about techno.

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the sadly departed Grease Tube on leads
the sadly departed Tube Limit on leads

VW on drums

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Ok Fredrik and anyone who wants to pitch in...

I can't seem to get that heavy guitar sound. I have a Korg A1 effects unit which i connect digitally to my soundcard. I usually use the comp+tubesim+eq in there and run it through JCM900 from the guitar suite. All played with a mexican strat.

Dunno what i'm doing wrong but i don't get that tight and heavy chugga sound. Maybe it's the geetar that just sounds awful. My friend has a Gibson Les Paul and an SG so i might try them to see if it makes things better. Or just tune 'em down.

If anyone feels like giving me a good preset for JCM900 plugin or Cortex i would be very greatful.

And great sound you've there Dimitar.
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another sound. bfd and Amplitube on guitars.
sometimes I use BlockFish to push Amplitube with more
sustain......
http://www.cmusicforum.com/dimitar/The_ ... _Test2.mp3
PitchShift in the begining is my crapy EFX from CreamWare Luna II

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Hellbilly wrote:Ok Fredrik and anyone who wants to pitch in...

I can't seem to get that heavy guitar sound. I have a Korg A1 effects unit which i connect digitally to my soundcard. I usually use the comp+tubesim+eq in there and run it through JCM900 from the guitar suite. All played with a mexican strat.

Dunno what i'm doing wrong but i don't get that tight and heavy chugga sound. Maybe it's the geetar that just sounds awful. My friend has a Gibson Les Paul and an SG so i might try them to see if it makes things better. Or just tune 'em down.

If anyone feels like giving me a good preset for JCM900 plugin or Cortex i would be very greatful.

And great sound you've there Dimitar.
Tell me what sound you need....
Btw I dont use any outboard gear...
only Behringer DI and small Behringer 6 chanel Mixer...

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Har wrote:Also, I've recently started experimenting by supplimenting that with the FrettedSynth Guitifier plugin...it's great for giving a warm, edge-y tone ranging from just-on-the-edge amp overdrive to even more heavier tones. :)
Whoa...sorry, my bad!! :-o Guitifier isn't made by FrettedSynth (who actually makes Chimp, which is also pretty cool too!), it's by the same guy who made Cortex...and looking at the Cortex site, it appears to be the updated version of what used to be Guitifier!
(boy, do I feel like a smacked ass now! :oops: :lol:)

Damn....OK, downloading Cortex now! :D

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Har wrote:
Har wrote:Also, I've recently started experimenting by supplimenting that with the FrettedSynth Guitifier plugin...it's great for giving a warm, edge-y tone ranging from just-on-the-edge amp overdrive to even more heavier tones. :)
Whoa...sorry, my bad!! :-o Guitifier isn't made by FrettedSynth (who actually makes Chimp, which is also pretty cool too!), it's by the same guy who made Cortex...and looking at the Cortex site, it appears to be the updated version of what used to be Guitifier!
(boy, do I feel like a smacked ass now! :oops: :lol:)

Damn....OK, downloading Cortex now! :D
I was going to tell you ........... :hihi:

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camelphat3 :wink: :D

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I don't think that choice of plug-in matters that much, except guitar amp simulation plug-in...

This one was made 5-6 months ago as a demo for Lady J's presets for Amplitube:
http://www.milking-rosewood.com/mp3/Dus ... ransit.mp3
And I hope I will finish this one someday, too busy doing some other things...This is unfinished version:
http://www.milking-rosewood.com/Audio/N ... 0Fast1.mp3
Guitars: POD and Amplitube, and my modified Valley Arts guitar.
For drums I like searching through some old Akai CDs for interesting sounds, even cutting pieces of kit I like from loops, and then I use some odd tricks like layering few different snare sounds at constant changing velocities to get more natural sound of a snare, hats from different kits, differently tuned etc.
I really like Logic's tape delay on lead guitars too.
For reverb, a lot of impulses from noisevault.com, rest of it is whatever I got my hands on. Fishphones plugs are really nice too.
Ok Fredrik and anyone who wants to pitch in...

I can't seem to get that heavy guitar sound. I have a Korg A1 effects unit which i connect digitally to my soundcard. I usually use the comp+tubesim+eq in there and run it through JCM900 from the guitar suite. All played with a mexican strat.
You won't get sound you are looking for out of mex strat, that's for sure. Maybe you may consider recording guitars using korgs own distortion and then after that use impulse reverb like SIR with impulses of different guitar boxes on recorded guitar tracks. You can try it after jcm900 plugin too.
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Fruity Blood Overdrive (many of them), and parametric EQs :D

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:shock: :-o :love:
That is it! :lol:


Well, it is heavy and solid enough, but does it sounds good? Impulse based? Vst or DX? Do we have to use it on channels or only on groups exclusively :hihi:

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I tried the blockfish plugin after reading this thread and it sounded like the compressor I have been after for guitars. Very impressive for a free plug.

I must say though that I love Guitar Rig over all the amp sims. I have even used the VOX simul instead of my real AC30 a few times. Nice interface and possible to really get the sound I am after usually.

Also my other fave guitar item for recording is the behringer Ultra-G DI. Sits between tube amp and speakers and has 4x12 cab modelling. Gets a very real signal from the amps to disk without messing with mics. Used it on my HIWATT, AC30 and Mesa F50 with good results. All guitarists should get one as they are dirt cheap. And its a standard DI too.

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JohnVulich wrote:Image
That thing is SOOOO over-engineered. You know, they could have just used a little red LED to tell us it's on, but the f**kers had to go and use a halogen :roll:

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