3*s wrote: No one has the money to randomly buy CDs and hope they find something they like.
RIAA strikes out at students
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- KVRAF
- 1530 posts since 20 Feb, 2003
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- KVRian
- 1243 posts since 24 Oct, 2003 from Maine
How many CDs can you listen to? Can you listen at home? What about music the store doesn't carry? Can you do it whenever you want? Do you have to go all the way to the store? 10 tracks all from different CDs in 30 minutes?Cabinfever wrote:3*s wrote: No one has the money to randomly buy CDs and hope they find something they like.i ask to listen to it in the shop, or hear it on radio. thats how it worked for 50 years before p2p
You can do that on LEGAL download services (try Rhapsody).
Progress.
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- Banned
- 12367 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
well if the law of the glass case is good enuff for you, then it's good enuff for every creature and society from here to wherever then :p
i applaud, it's what god made pockets for.
you want to talk about right and wrong, you take the concept of "property" off the f**king life support mechanism hereafter termed "land."
then we can talk about theft.
i applaud, it's what god made pockets for.
you want to talk about right and wrong, you take the concept of "property" off the f**king life support mechanism hereafter termed "land."
then we can talk about theft.
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
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Voidoid Surrealist Voidoid Surrealist https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=41079
- KVRAF
- 4048 posts since 18 Sep, 2004 from Places far less tedious than this blue trainwreck...
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- KVRian
- 964 posts since 14 Jun, 2003 from USA
f**k THE RIAA!!!
Again, I can't see how people can be sued for hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars for 128bit mp3 crap. WTF,! 128kbs is usually the only format out on P2P, yet the RIAA can sue and say that crap was stolen. I don't even consider 128kbs sueable, it's sh!t to my ears. Greedy basterds should sue people who actually make exact duplicates of the orginal CD and then sell the duplicate CDs on the corner of the streets, parties, internet, etc... To me, once the songs are encoded to MP3, they ain't the same anymore, their a piece of compressed digital shit and shouldn't even be considered a song, just data. To me, it's amazing how we can be sued for something that is made up of 1's & 0's and that is not even physical.
f**k THE RIAA!!! & f**k THE GREEDY ARTISTS WHO SUPPORT THEM!!! Atleast Jewel knows what's up and she's hot.
Too bad Johnny Cochran died, he would have probably found a way to beat these basterds if he was hired.
Again, I can't see how people can be sued for hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars for 128bit mp3 crap. WTF,! 128kbs is usually the only format out on P2P, yet the RIAA can sue and say that crap was stolen. I don't even consider 128kbs sueable, it's sh!t to my ears. Greedy basterds should sue people who actually make exact duplicates of the orginal CD and then sell the duplicate CDs on the corner of the streets, parties, internet, etc... To me, once the songs are encoded to MP3, they ain't the same anymore, their a piece of compressed digital shit and shouldn't even be considered a song, just data. To me, it's amazing how we can be sued for something that is made up of 1's & 0's and that is not even physical.
f**k THE RIAA!!! & f**k THE GREEDY ARTISTS WHO SUPPORT THEM!!! Atleast Jewel knows what's up and she's hot.
Too bad Johnny Cochran died, he would have probably found a way to beat these basterds if he was hired.
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Lawnmower Of The Damned Lawnmower Of The Damned https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=29783
- KVRian
- 850 posts since 16 Jun, 2004
Don't cry for the record companies, they are the ones screwing the musicians that you love. I don't even want to think about how many of my favorite "mainstream label" bands are, or have been, involved in lawsuits against their record labels. I say f**k the lot of them. We have better solutions that remove the middlemen and allow musicians to make more money and music fans to pay less while having greater choice.
Let's say a musician working for "Somy Records" wants to make a collaboration with another artist on "Cambodia Records". The record labels will end up blocking it because they would end up cross promoting a band on a different label. Oh no! Think of how restricted musicians are because of this system that exists solely as an anachronism of an age where the musicians couldn't sell the music directly to you.
I'm not condoning filesharing, outside the bounds of incredibly rare stuff. There's too much great free music out there for illegal downloading to be excusable.
However, I really do hope that the concept of record labels does die soon.
Has anyone else here read the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy? Remember the part about the Golgafrinchans who took all of the middle-men and put them on a ship and stranded them on earth? I think it's about time we rounded up the middle-men and returned them to Golgafrincham.
Let's say a musician working for "Somy Records" wants to make a collaboration with another artist on "Cambodia Records". The record labels will end up blocking it because they would end up cross promoting a band on a different label. Oh no! Think of how restricted musicians are because of this system that exists solely as an anachronism of an age where the musicians couldn't sell the music directly to you.
I'm not condoning filesharing, outside the bounds of incredibly rare stuff. There's too much great free music out there for illegal downloading to be excusable.
However, I really do hope that the concept of record labels does die soon.
Has anyone else here read the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy? Remember the part about the Golgafrinchans who took all of the middle-men and put them on a ship and stranded them on earth? I think it's about time we rounded up the middle-men and returned them to Golgafrincham.
Excuse all the blood.
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- KVRian
- 1283 posts since 13 Nov, 2004
TOTALLY DUDE!Cabinfever wrote:going on past judgments the result will be that petty criminals will have to pay for what they stole. oh dear, the poor little brat will have to pay ! what next ? they might have to get a job and work for what they want.3*s wrote:That's just great.
Ruin some 20 year old kid's life for trading a few songs.
More money in some rich douche's pocket.
f**k the RIAA.
Let's be clear.......the riaa sucks donkeys.......and when it was first being cracked down on (you remember lars don't you?) they were f**king out of control. The industry said DOWNLOAD DOWNLOAD and there were no pay-per sites like now....there was no excuse for the nazi shit they pulled at first.......but.........now.....years later..... if you are still downloading........you get what you deserve.......
- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
Sir, it is a very popular thing. It is everywhere: mp3.com, mp3.com.au, IUMA, SoundClick, The music cafe here, The Auditorium, and literally a thousand other places are all examples of it.Cabinfever wrote: for all those people who want something for nothing and are sure how p2p is good for musicians, try this: set up your own music network with material from all those thousands of bands and artists which think that giving away product free is a good idea. that way its all legit and no one is ripped off. yep, curse those greedy executives, just go straight to all the musos and ask them. wow, what an idea ! i can just see how popular it would be.
and if you really think the big record companies are so evil then don't listen to their products at all.
Lots of people don't. Unfortunately, they have, through an arcane series of regulations and laws written by their lawyers, found ways of filling up the airwaves with a tiny selection of their wretched, 'approved' music. There is nothing 'fair' about how they have gone about doing this.
This article contains interesting information about this unfairness. While this one discusses some of the absurdities of contemporary copyright law.
I am sure you will never read them, but somehow, I feel compelled to try.
sigh.
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- KVRian
- 1411 posts since 25 Sep, 2003 from The Dirty South, USA
The RIAA represents the U.S. Major Record Labels that are responsible for giving us 50 Cent & G-Unit.Rellik wrote:You understand the point of striking now, right?
So people won't get the idea that the new technology is for some reason exempt from normal copyright laws. If they didn't make this statement now, there would be bigger problems later on.
Their political actions may be dastardly, and they may have extreme fall-out on the world of free music, but when they prosecute people breaking the law, I see no reason to criticize them for it. It's "mean" I guess, but that is at least one thing that they're in the right when they do.
By the way, the RIAA is not full of evil people. There's a whole other side to the story that is extremely under-represented in the online community - they're not here to explain their point of view, but that doesn't mean they're just evil.
They are a beast power!!!!!
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- KVRian
- 1411 posts since 25 Sep, 2003 from The Dirty South, USA
Exactly!Lawnmower Of The Damned wrote:Don't cry for the record companies, they are the ones screwing the musicians that you love. I don't even want to think about how many of my favorite "mainstream label" bands are, or have been, involved in lawsuits against their record labels. I say f**k the lot of them. We have better solutions that remove the middlemen and allow musicians to make more money and music fans to pay less while having greater choice.
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- KVRAF
- 1530 posts since 20 Feb, 2003
i do relise this. i was trying to be too subtle making a point.herodotus wrote:It is everywhere: mp3.com, mp3.com.au, IUMA, SoundClick, The music cafe here, The Auditorium, and literally a thousand other places are all examples of it.
i read them. interesting. in fact i agree that copyright law is a horrendous mess and horribly restrictive. and i'd beas happy as our most rbid haters here to see the record company monoliths crack and crumble.herodotus wrote: I am sure you will never read them, but somehow, I feel compelled to try. sigh.
but that's completely separate from taking something for nothing. such people are parasites on productive society.
if or when you begin to sell 'reproducable' goods online - and depend on it for your income - your feelings may change.
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
is there a list somewhere of the p2p programs that they monitor?
