RIAA strikes out at students

[stefancrs]

Can you really steal Intellectual Property? How? Btw, IP and copyright laws has existed for a very short period of time. With it, very few of the classic works by Bach, Beethoven, Shakespear etc would've been made. Because they "borrowed" lots from others works. Which we can't do today. IP might as well be something that is hindering creativity and market development instead of protecting it.

[Teksonik]

Can you really steal Intellectual Property? How? Btw, IP and copyright laws has existed for a very short period of time. With it, very few of the classic works by Bach, Beethoven, Shakespear etc would've been made. Because they "borrowed" lots from others works. Which we can't do today. IP might as well be something that is hindering creativity and market development instead of protecting it.

Yes you can. I have been the victim of intellectual property theft on more than one occasion. It sucks. Once it happens to you then your opinion will change. There is no difference in me spending hours creating works of intellectual property, offering them for sale and having them distibuted free on the net than there is if I were to spend those same hours making a piece of sculpture, having someone break into my house and steal it-no difference. Whether or not the record companies are rippng off musicians is another subject. Whether or not someone would have bought an album or not if they hadn't had an illegal copy of the music first is another form of justification for an immoral act (couldn't your friend just let you listen to his album first at his house so you could then decide if you wanted to buy it or not? That's the way it was done in the old days). I'll state it one more time. Stealing is stealing no matter what the property. Stealing is morally wrong, plain and simple. The fact that stealing has to be made illegal says a lot about the human race. Yes xoxos there are more pressing matters of injustice at hand but if you want to ramble on about Mexicans and squirrels take it to HPC. It has nothing to do with music. That's it for me,I'm 10-42 on this subject.

[stefancrs]

Can you really steal Intellectual Property? How? Btw, IP and copyright laws has existed for a very short period of time. With it, very few of the classic works by Bach, Beethoven, Shakespear etc would've been made. Because they "borrowed" lots from others works. Which we can't do today. IP might as well be something that is hindering creativity and market development instead of protecting it.

Yes you can. I have been the victim of intellectual property theft on more than one occasion. It sucks. Once it happens to you then your opinion will change. There is no difference in me spending hours creating works of intellectual property, offering them for sale and having them distibuted free on the net than there is if I were to spend those same hours making a piece of sculpture, having someone break into my house and steal it-no difference. Whether or not the record companies are rippng off musicians is another subject. Whether or not someone would have bought an album or not if they hadn't had an illegal copy of the music first is another form of justification for an immoral act (couldn't your friend just let you listen to his album first at his house so you could then decide if you wanted to buy it or not? That's the way it was done in the old days). I'll state it one more time. Stealing is stealing no matter what the property. Stealing is morally wrong, plain and simple. The fact that stealing has to be made illegal says a lot about the human race. Yes xoxos there are more pressing matters of injustice at hand but if you want to ramble on about Mexicans and squirrels take it to HPC. It has nothing to do with music. That's it for me,I'm 10-42 on this subject.

But in what way does intellectual property get stolen? If someone steals a sculpture, that specific sculpture gets stolen, but you're still the creator of it and you're still the one that knows how you did it. And I quite much am a "victim" to "theft" of intellectual property, I am a game developer you know.

I still fail to see how one can steal something intellectual from the one that has got it.

[ericj23]

Here's a thing - can someone find me a copy of captain beefheart's - Lick My Decals Off, Baby - the album after trout mask replica

he already has a certain amount of support from me but if you could find me where I can actually give him &the band more for this wonderful record

or do i just stick with my downloaded copy

also

who own the copyright on bootleg material - ie stuff by an artist that has never been released anywhere but tapes exist - Am i supposed to not download this becuase it's copyright - even tho I cannot purchase it anywhere ?