Project 5 V.2 video

[billybk1]

P5 v2 has indeed arrived.

Yes, it has and in a BIG way too! I demo'd P5 1.x a couple of times and never really got into it. Personally, I really did not like the GUI or it's workflow and found it lacking in many areas, so I took a pass on it.
But, P5 2.0, seems like a brand new app, with a new streamlined user interface, Groove Matrix, Pre-Track Arpeggiator, gapless audio engine, Device Chains, audio recording, Dimension sampler/synth, etc.
After watching the P2 video a few more times and looking at all the new features and enhancements, I could not resist any longer. So I pulled the trigger and fortunately found a copy, still available online for $179.10 (free shipping - no tax) with a free upgrade to P5 2.0

[Kire]

He played my patches for the Zeta! Cool!

[ericj23]

looked really pretty sweet - but does it have pdc or not

Eric,

To answer your question, Project5 Version 2 does have plugin delay compensation (pdc).

Nick Haddad
Software Engineer
Cakewalk

looks like i'm off to find a copy - dolphin music take paypal ?

[ericj23]

they do - so sold

so will i have to download an upgrade - or will cakewalk send it to me ?

[duncanm]

they do - so sold

so will i have to download an upgrade - or will cakewalk send it to me ?

you'll have to fill in a form and send it off with a copy of your invoice. also, bearing in mind that there's a 3 gig soundset for dimension, I guess that downloading is out of the question...

[whyterabbyt]

You need to get an upgrade form for V2 from Edirol UK's website.

[baggio]

In the UK go to edirol's site and there is a form to fill in to claim free upgrade.

I just wish they would give me the bloody upgrade price - £70 I oculd live with.

[baggio]

Triple post

[billybk1]

so will i have to download an upgrade - or will cakewalk send it to me ?

You will have to download the Redemption form and send it to Cakewalk along with a copy of your sales receipt and the P5 1.x serial number. P5 2.0 and associated content (many GB's worth) will arrive on a DVD:

http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/Project5/default.asp

[ericj23]

is all good - found the form at cakewalk - they say 4-6 weeks after receiveing it - but I will check edirol UK

hopefully they will do it quicker

alas they say 4-6 weeks from now too - bit annoyed that i just spent £100 - getting the product in 6 weeks time seems a bit off - and yes i know iget 1.5 before then but i don't really want that

[whyterabbyt]

The Cakewalk US form is no good for European buyers... I checked...

[disturb]

one last thing that i'm not sure p5 v2 can do...
is there a grid system like in the wrap function of Live! that was so great to do dj type mixes... ?

[wrench45us]

i've watched the video a few times now
It's a lot of information in a very well--organized and condensed form.

what strikes me as a P5 user from v1, is the workflow used by Brandon in the video is simply not possible in v1 or v1.5 and endorses this shift from P5 as a very efficient midi composition tablet to a sort of composition instrument to be played and recorded.

so while the usual 1,2, 4 or 8 bar patterns may now be fodder for the Groove Matrix workflow, in addition to the basis for track arrangement, there's also this more Sonar-like begin-to-end audio or midi recording model. That may have always been there with midi, but I for one never went there given the work model of patterns that I used.

I guess my point is v2 opens up a set of workflow models, where the previous versions had what I always thought was a very efficient, but apparently narrow model.

feeling a bit blown away

[stale bread]

I don't know if I could wait for 6 weeks, I think i'm gonna fudge the upgrade and just get version 2 outright when it drops, and as poor as I am that says alot. i think their asking price is very reasonable.

[nebulae]

This is an excerpt from an online chat with the very helpful folks at AudioMidi.com. I thought it would be helpful...

Stan Dudinski from Sales is here!
Neb : Hi Stan
Stan Dudinski : hello
Neb : I'm interested in the competitive upgrade to Project 5 v.2
Neb : I have Live 4
Neb : my question is will I have to somehow give up live 4 to do the upgrade?
Neb : do I have to relinquish my license?
Stan Dudinski : nope
Stan Dudinski : you keep your old software
Neb : so how does it work?
Stan Dudinski :
Neb : I send you guys a copy of the receipt or something?
Stan Dudinski : you provide us with the proof
Stan Dudinski : a scan of the manual
Neb : I bought it from you guys
Stan Dudinski : etc
Stan Dudinski : cool
Neb : ok so I get you all that and you send me the software...I read there's more to do to register with cakewalk?
Stan Dudinski : yes, the process needs to be repeated with them as well
Neb : I see
Stan Dudinski : it is not fairly easy and if there is a hang-up let us know and we'll clear it out
Neb : when will you have P5?
Stan Dudinski : full version of the crossgrade?
Neb : crossgrade
Neb : I thought they were the same thing
Stan Dudinski : they are different products
Stan Dudinski : should be here beginning of May
Neb : oh ok
Neb : will contact you then
Neb : so have you seen it?
Neb : in action
Stan Dudinski : oh yes
Neb : thoughts compared to Live?
Stan Dudinski : it should have been version 1 to be honest
Stan Dudinski : different beast altogether
Stan Dudinski : I mean compared to version 1
Neb : yeah, I wasn't that impressed with v1
Neb : I know it has PDC, which is really nice
Neb : the main concern I have is the CPU usage with softsynths
Stan Dudinski : although I don't know how the beatmatching will perform the new version is a MUCH better version
Neb : Live is terrible about CPU usage for softsynths
Stan Dudinski : yes, project seems to be a lot better
Neb : really?
Stan Dudinski : the audio engine sounds better as well
Neb : so the sound doesn't sound thin, like Live sometimes does?
Stan Dudinski : correct
Neb : and it's more efficient that Live for softsynths too?
Neb : wow, this is going to put Ableton on alert
Neb : one last question - the "marketing" says that P5 supports VSTi synths...is it native support or via the wrapper like Sonar?
Stan Dudinski : it is native
Neb : excellent
Stan Dudinski : nice, ain't it?
Neb : oh one more question - sorry
Neb : is there an on-board audio editor, or does it allow you to use external audio editors?
Stan Dudinski : NP
Neb : and what about how Live lets you use warp markers to correct a groove
Stan Dudinski : there is an on-board editor although I did not see how detailed it was
Stan Dudinski : I shall be getting an NFR soon and will have a better grasp on the new version
Neb : ok
Neb : any ideas about the warp markers
Neb : ?
Stan Dudinski : no idea on that
Stan Dudinski : BTW did you see the new ZETA from them?
Neb : well, there's nothing new about the z3ta
Stan Dudinski : http://www.audiomidi.com/common/cfm/pro ... m?pid=6403
Neb : anyone in the scene knows the venerable z3ta
Stan Dudinski : true
Stan Dudinski : LOL
Neb : anyways, thanks so much for all the info
Neb : if you dont' mind, I'd like to post this convo on the KVR forums
Stan Dudinski : sure thing
Stan Dudinski : of course
Neb : later
Stan Dudinski : let them know we are here to answer those questions
Stan Dudinski : cheers