Project 5 V.2 video
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- KVRist
- 106 posts since 28 Apr, 2003
^^ Check out the box for z3ta+. I never thought I'd see that.
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- KVRist
- 297 posts since 20 Jun, 2003 from YYZ CDN
Just to clear 1 thing up,
Everything else he said about Project 5 v2 (aside from the crossgrade which I know nothing about) is indeed correct. This is a killer update.
This isn't right. It is done via Cakewalk VST/DX wrapper.Neb : one last question - the "marketing" says that P5 supports VSTi synths...is it native support or via the wrapper like Sonar?
Stan Dudinski : it is native
Everything else he said about Project 5 v2 (aside from the crossgrade which I know nothing about) is indeed correct. This is a killer update.
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- KVRist
- 372 posts since 19 Feb, 2004
Cool, thanks for the correction. Quick question - since you seem to know, is there a warp marker function like there is in Live, so that you can time correct grooves?op519 wrote:Just to clear 1 thing up,
This isn't right. It is done via Cakewalk VST/DX wrapper.Neb : one last question - the "marketing" says that P5 supports VSTi synths...is it native support or via the wrapper like Sonar?
Stan Dudinski : it is native
Everything else he said about Project 5 v2 (aside from the crossgrade which I know nothing about) is indeed correct. This is a killer update.
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- KVRAF
- 2058 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Canada
nebulae wrote:op519 wrote:Just to clear 1 thing up,
This isn't right. It is done via Cakewalk VST/DX wrapper.Neb : one last question - the "marketing" says that P5 supports VSTi synths...is it native support or via the wrapper like Sonar?
Stan Dudinski : it is native
Everything else he said about Project 5 v2 (aside from the crossgrade which I know nothing about) is indeed correct. This is a killer update.
Cool, thanks for the correction. Quick question - since you seem to know, is there a warp marker function like there is in Live, so that you can time correct grooves?
It acidises .wav files - so in essence it works with ACID files which act in a similar manner so more or less yes .
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- KVRAF
- 2217 posts since 15 Jul, 2003
and to clear one more thing up:
Stan should really learn to say P5, rather than Project.
Stan should really learn to say P5, rather than Project.
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- KVRist
- 161 posts since 22 Oct, 2003 from New Zealand
Heres a question - Live 4 allows you to audition loops at the song tempo even if the loops aren't acidized. This is extremely useful so does P5 V2 do this? (or only acidized)
Cheers
Jed
Cheers
Jed
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- KVRist
- 116 posts since 4 Dec, 2002 from portland, or
I don't know if p5 is the new soft studio king, but the cakewalk marketing department is clearly on top of the game. Compare this imformative concise and entertaining presentation to the rambling Kontakt2 avi or the lame reason 3 avi. Great job cakewalk!! Wish there was more on dimension...
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- KVRAF
- 2582 posts since 24 Apr, 2003 from Canada
Agreed. Honestly it isn't that hard to put on a decent presentation. I think some companies are just getting arrogant that customers will buy there software regardless of how its marketed (Hello NI!)lucille wrote:I don't know if p5 is the new soft studio king, but the cakewalk marketing department is clearly on top of the game. Compare this imformative concise and entertaining presentation to the rambling Kontakt2 avi or the lame reason 3 avi. Great job cakewalk!! Wish there was more on dimension...
Yeah I wish there was more info on Dimension. Demo mp3s too. But there has to be a few surprises I guess
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- KVRAF
- 2875 posts since 28 Jan, 2004 from Da Nang, Vietnam
Just loaded up my new copy of 1.5 (ordered to take advantage of v2 upgrade) to discover you're absolutely right. Didn't know that. I guess that Cakewalk did get there first. I wonder if P5 was the first host to support this?Alfalfa wrote:Actually, the channel presets (they used to be called track presets I think) were in Project 5 v.1.5, which predates Logic 7. If anything, Apple copied Cakewalk.kuniklo wrote: ...and the new channel presets sound like a bite on Logic 7 but having all these features in one inexpensive package that runs on PC hardware is pretty damn appealing.
Lets hope all the DAW makers continue to focus on improving each others' ideas instead of patenting and suing.
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- KVRist
- 106 posts since 28 Apr, 2003
Not sure who was first, but P5 track patches are a great thing (even in v1.5). If it wasn't clear in the video, you can store your synth, effects, synth settings, effect settings and MIDI Remote Control mappings (i.e. for parameter automation) into a single track patch.
This is incredibly useful for sound design because you can now think of the sound on a macro level, as opposed to worrying about recalling a specific patch for a VSTi, multiple patches for VST effects and countless MIDI CC mappings. It's so nice to be able to recall a track patch and instantly have your effects loaded and your MIDI CC mappings already set up for you.
Plus, you can easily replace synths with existing track patches, so auditioning songs with several candidate track patches is fairly effortless. Before I started working with P5, I had to save numerous copies of the same song to do this sort of thing in a safe way (i.e. without cluttering up a song with extraneous tracks or risking losing a good candidate sound). It's a very clean way of working, and it can save you a lot of time in the long run.
Overall, after watching the video, I am very impressed with what Cakewalk has done here. This looks like it should be called Project5 v3 or v4 judging by how much has been added to it (to me, it looks completely different from what I am using now). I just wish that they would have showed more of the Dimension synth, since that seems to be one of the hugest additions to P5 v2 -- I could hardly see any of the GUI in the video.
As a current Project5 user, I might be biased in my opinion about this, but I am certainly upgrading. On a related note, for those of you who might not have been impressed with v1, you might want to take a look at this new version, since it seems to be completely different. I say this because the P5 user community is really great (just read the official forums to see what I mean), and I hope that this new version will bring in some new talent and contributors over there in the future.
This is incredibly useful for sound design because you can now think of the sound on a macro level, as opposed to worrying about recalling a specific patch for a VSTi, multiple patches for VST effects and countless MIDI CC mappings. It's so nice to be able to recall a track patch and instantly have your effects loaded and your MIDI CC mappings already set up for you.
Plus, you can easily replace synths with existing track patches, so auditioning songs with several candidate track patches is fairly effortless. Before I started working with P5, I had to save numerous copies of the same song to do this sort of thing in a safe way (i.e. without cluttering up a song with extraneous tracks or risking losing a good candidate sound). It's a very clean way of working, and it can save you a lot of time in the long run.
Overall, after watching the video, I am very impressed with what Cakewalk has done here. This looks like it should be called Project5 v3 or v4 judging by how much has been added to it (to me, it looks completely different from what I am using now). I just wish that they would have showed more of the Dimension synth, since that seems to be one of the hugest additions to P5 v2 -- I could hardly see any of the GUI in the video.
As a current Project5 user, I might be biased in my opinion about this, but I am certainly upgrading. On a related note, for those of you who might not have been impressed with v1, you might want to take a look at this new version, since it seems to be completely different. I say this because the P5 user community is really great (just read the official forums to see what I mean), and I hope that this new version will bring in some new talent and contributors over there in the future.
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christianmusicmaker christianmusicmaker https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=12152 - KVRAF
- 1670 posts since 1 Feb, 2004 from UK
I would guess no, as in acidized only but without a demo it's difficult to tell.It's focus seems to be on midi more than audio manipulation, which of course it can do as well.Jed wrote:Heres a question - Live 4 allows you to audition loops at the song tempo even if the loops aren't acidized. This is extremely useful so does P5 V2 do this? (or only acidized)
Cheers
Jed
I have a feeling there is so much to this upgrade that even reviews can't uncover it all.Maybe the sound on sound reviews will tell more, I think the next mag is due fairly soon. It may have a P5 v.2 review in it.
If it does it will probably be about 9 pages. The last one was about that long.
It's a good read. http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Jun03/a ... oject5.asp