Well . it's a problem that's troubled me for a long time.
Reverb. I make game music , I just want the sound of my music like that of
Hollywood music, just like Bill Brown's music (http://www.billbrownmusic.com/), I
try many software reverb ,they are : Reaktor Space Master, Waves IR 1, Logic's
Space Designer, but no matter how I try to adjust the parameter , I feel I still
cannot get the sound like Bill's , and my music used space master reverb is here: http://music.download.com/wukaihong .
I konw Bill Brown use those hardware reverb unit like
Sony M7 digital reverb and Lexicon MPX-1 digital reverb according to his web site
introduction (http://www.billbrownmusic.com/studio.htm) Is it possible to use
these software reverb unit to get those sound ? and how ?
So I wander if I must use those hard ware reverb to get the sound like his.
And now I use Logic Pro as my DAW, I have A2|6 and Motu 828MK2 card, if I get a
hard ware reverb unit like Lexicon MPX-1 ,how to connect to my card ? and I want
to use the hardware reverb as a bus in my mix during composing, and how to real
time bounce the final track with hardware effect in the final mix?
Or should I get a DSP card like those UAD1 and TC powercore? Some of my firends
told me that those it 's still difficult to get those reverb effect like those
real hard ware ones.....
I need your help!
About Reverb in Hollywood music
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- KVRian
- 954 posts since 15 Dec, 2000 from NY,NY,USA
If you want to use a Hardware unit in your sequencer like the Lexicon MPX-1 you'll have to route the i/o through your Motu's spare channels(you'll have to make room),and since you have Logic you can use the i/o plugin it should be easy,but I'm not sure how many intances you can use this in your inserts or wether routing it through your aux bus would be a better way to go.TC PoCo is a good choice,but the new high quality verbs(VSS3 and Non Lin) sound different and are expensive(around $800.00 a piece).Since you already have a convolution plug in Logic I would probably try and make my own IR's(friends hardware/plugins/internet recources etc.).
"Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal." - Albert Einstein
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- KVRist
- 291 posts since 3 Dec, 2002 from tokyo
Aduan - you can buy those Sony units very cheaply now - or at least you can in Japan, and probably elsewhere. Its the DPS-R7. I got one for a fraction of their original (OVERPRICED) price. If thats what he uses for his soundtracks then go for it.
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- KVRAF
- 2565 posts since 30 Mar, 2004 from Phoenix AZ USA
I would take a serious look at the TC powercore.
I have the UAD-1 and the plate reverb is a killer but I think the TC powercore has the reverbs you are looking for.
I have the UAD-1 and the plate reverb is a killer but I think the TC powercore has the reverbs you are looking for.
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- KVRian
- 692 posts since 10 Apr, 2004
Have you tried convolution reverbs?
here....> http://www.voxengo.com/pspace/
here....> http://www.voxengo.com/pspace/
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- KVRAF
- 8705 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
You can pick up an MPX pretty cheap...and don't they have digital in/outs? In which case you wouldn't have to use your AD converters.
As for s/w plugins - I wouldn't really waste my time trying to get classy reverbs out of most of them. However if you use convolution, there are plenty of well recorded quality impulses available of Eventides, Lexicons (PCMs, not MPXs, so they're much better) and TCs. And they're free.
In fact, you can get SIR for free too, so I'd spend a fair bit of time downloading a whole load of impulses and try them out. The Eventide 4500 impulses, and the Lexicon PCM91 and 960 impulses, and even some of the TC 6000 impulses are pretty damn good quality (at least at 24bit) on the Noisevault site.
This guy may well use an MPX...but if he has his stuff recorded in the pro studios, I'd be very surprised if he stuck with his MPX...he'll have access to PCMs and 960s and Eventides. Lexicon are a US company, and I would imagine they are pretty ubiquitous in US studios. I can't see anyone would use an MPX when they have full access to something better (although MPXs are extremely good at their price point!). I suspect the stuff about MPX use is more for his own private studio. And anyone who likes the MPX character is going to prefer a PCM or better.
TC Powercore etc apparently have most of the h/w reverb algorithms on them...but first off you have to test them to see if you actually like TC reverb - it is quite different in character to Lexicon reverb, although I find Lexicon to be far more similar to Eventide in character.
Also - check the price of the Powercores...I suspect you can pick up an MPX h/w unit for less money. And you may prefer Lexicon to TC (I certainly do). Although, obviously a Powercore will let you use more instances of reverb than a budget h/w unit. But then most reverb can beused effectively as a send - there's no reason you can't get by with one send, and simply render any special insert reverbs you need.
As for s/w plugins - I wouldn't really waste my time trying to get classy reverbs out of most of them. However if you use convolution, there are plenty of well recorded quality impulses available of Eventides, Lexicons (PCMs, not MPXs, so they're much better) and TCs. And they're free.
In fact, you can get SIR for free too, so I'd spend a fair bit of time downloading a whole load of impulses and try them out. The Eventide 4500 impulses, and the Lexicon PCM91 and 960 impulses, and even some of the TC 6000 impulses are pretty damn good quality (at least at 24bit) on the Noisevault site.
This guy may well use an MPX...but if he has his stuff recorded in the pro studios, I'd be very surprised if he stuck with his MPX...he'll have access to PCMs and 960s and Eventides. Lexicon are a US company, and I would imagine they are pretty ubiquitous in US studios. I can't see anyone would use an MPX when they have full access to something better (although MPXs are extremely good at their price point!). I suspect the stuff about MPX use is more for his own private studio. And anyone who likes the MPX character is going to prefer a PCM or better.
TC Powercore etc apparently have most of the h/w reverb algorithms on them...but first off you have to test them to see if you actually like TC reverb - it is quite different in character to Lexicon reverb, although I find Lexicon to be far more similar to Eventide in character.
Also - check the price of the Powercores...I suspect you can pick up an MPX h/w unit for less money. And you may prefer Lexicon to TC (I certainly do). Although, obviously a Powercore will let you use more instances of reverb than a budget h/w unit. But then most reverb can beused effectively as a send - there's no reason you can't get by with one send, and simply render any special insert reverbs you need.
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- KVRAF
- 4030 posts since 7 Sep, 2002
aduan, from what I know 'Hollywood' sound is recreated in original halls where that music was originally recorded. So all you need is a good impulse set. Try Gary Garritan's latest impulse product when it's available.
