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thenumber23 · Post by **thenumber23** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:28 pm

I'm curious, the Roland Groovesynth in Project5 v2 - is that a VSTi or DXi?

I assume this is the same synth in Kinetic. Though, I couldn't tell from any literature whether you'd have to Rewire to P5 to use it, or if you could use it directly in something like Sonar.

Thanks,
Brian

tkay77 · Post by **tkay77** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:52 pm

..you can use it as a dxi plugin..but if it´s the same version like in kinetic ...it will also sound thin and crappy...

...even my old mc303 sounded better...

..but who will need it if you get "Dimension"...

tkay :

christianmusicmaker · Post by **christianmusicmaker** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:11 pm

thenumber23 wrote:I'm curious, the Roland Groovesynth in Project5 v2 - is that a VSTi or DXi?

I assume this is the same synth in Kinetic. Though, I couldn't tell from any literature whether you'd have to Rewire to P5 to use it, or if you could use it directly in something like Sonar.

Thanks,
Brian

I use the Groove Synth in Sonar.It has prefectly good sounds in my view with over 400 instrument patches.

Clearly not a replacement for Trilogy or Atmosphere but fine for making music.

But yes Dimension is the *Main Event*.

Edit: just to add..Groovesynth is surely a DXi. VSTi...dont think so.

mumpcake · Post by **mumpcake** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:21 pm

Some of the groovesynth patches are a bit brittle, some are perfectly useful.

When Kinetic first came out, the GrooveSynth was limited to working in either that or P5. They released a patch to allow it to work in Sonar as well. I don't know if there are going to be similar restrictions, but if it is to be a standard-format plugin, it will be a DXi and not a VSTi.

billybk1 · Post by **billybk1** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:06 pm

tkay77 wrote:..you can use it as a dxi plugin..but if it´s the same version like in kinetic ...it will also sound thin and crappy... ...even my old mc303 sounded better...
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Huh!.......what kind of audio card and monitoring system were you using. Hopefully, not a cheap crappy SB card and computer speakers

I'll tell you what, to my ears the Roland GrooveSynth patches are the real deal. That is one of the first things I checked, before I bought Kinetic, which I bought primarily for the Roland GrooveSynth plugin. Kinetic was worth the $79.00 bucks I paid for it, just for GrooveSynth plugin (which btw, being a Cake product, you can also use in SONAR, as a DXi

). I did a patch to patch comparison with my Roland JX-305 GrooveSynth MIDI controller keyboard, which is the real deal. In case you don't know what it is, think of a MC909, with a keyboard.

The patches triggered from the GrooveSynth plugin, and played through, my Delta 66 24/96 audio card and JBL 4313 monitoring system were virtually indistinguisable, from like patches coming out of my JX-305 GrooveSynth.

It's a great plugin, IMO, but it is DXi only. For P5 2.0 users, having the GrooveSynth plugin included, is a nice bonus, and makes the P5 2.0 update, even more attractive.

dougsyo · Post by **dougsyo** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:36 pm

It's annoying that GrooveSynth is locked to Kinetic, P5, & Sonar. I have other DXI-capable sequencers (including a copy of CAKEWALK Home Studio, and FLS) that it won't play in.

I wonder if Dimension is likewise crippled? I love my Sonar, but I also like my FLS...

Edit: according to this, Dimension is not locked. Maybe they'll loose the GrooveSynth, too?

Doug

tkay77 · Post by **tkay77** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 12:11 am

Huh!.......what kind of audio card and monitoring system were you using. Hopefully, not a cheap crappy SB card and computer speakers Smile
I'll tell you what, to my ears the Roland GrooveSynth patches are the real deal. That is one of the first things I checked, before I bought Kinetic, which I bought primarily for the Roland GrooveSynth plugin. Kinetic was worth the $79.00 bucks I paid for it, just for GrooveSynth plugin (which btw, being a Cake product, you can also use in SONAR, as a DXi Very Happy ). I did a patch to patch comparison with my Roland JX-305 GrooveSynth MIDI controller keyboard, which is the real deal. In case you don't know what it is, think of a MC909, with a keyboard. Razz The patches triggered from the GrooveSynth plugin, and played through, my Delta 66 24/96 audio card and JBL 4313 monitoring system were virtually indistinguisable, from like patches coming out of my JX-305 GrooveSynth.

...the problem for me is i´m spoiled by the soundquality of Plugsound Drums & Synths so i had no more use for my mc303 and my D2 (which has the same soundengine like MC505 & JX305) and sold it...so i also have no use for Groovesynth ...but it´s free anyway, so i don´t mind...

tkay

billybk1 · Post by **billybk1** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 12:56 am

..so i also have no use for Groovesynth ...but it´s free anyway, so i don´t mind...
tkay

Hey, that's cool...we all have our fav softsynths

At least, with P5 2.0's VSTi/DXi compatibility you are not tied to Cake's own softsynth/samplers, even though some of them, are quite good. So I take it, your getting P5 2.0 then?

Breakpete · Post by **Breakpete** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:09 am

I remember wanting the mc909 really bad when it came out, but I couldn't afford it (I got the Rave-O-Lution 309 instead). I think the Groovesynth looks very interesting, as does P5 v.2. I'm kinda looking for a softstudio, and it looks very nice with the acid loop support, plus I liked the midi editor from the v1 demo.

Shame about the price (can't even afford v1 nowadays).

Is Project5 v2 Roland Groovesynth a VSTi/DXi