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Can't go wrong with the Voxengo, although I find them more difficult to learn how to use. I liked the Ozone interface better, but I think the Voxengo Mastering Suite will take your further. I tended to pick and choose from a number of companies, since I thought each had their strengths. I liked the stuff from Elemental Audio, PSP, and Voxengo. If you're gonna go for the Curve, Soni, and Elephant, then go for the bundle. O/W, consider going for a bundle from PSP or Elemental Audio.

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ttoz wrote: I think Aleksey's coding and support is outstanding
That's worth repeating...repeating... :wink:
ttoz wrote: ...so the most intriguing thing to me about curve eq is the matching function. how well does this work? has anyone used it for this purpose? at what stage could it be applied?
I was playing with a couple of guitar tracks in a submix last night and couldn't get it right, after playing around too long I kinda lost my ears. I got CurveEQ to learn the EQ from the guitar intro of 'Highway to Hell' by AC/DC then matched it to the stuff I had in the guitar submix. I still have it in the submix so it's probably a keeper.

There's a bunch of other things you can do with it - it's a full featured EQ for sure!

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My experience with Voxengo products are that they sound fantastic. I try most freebies and demos, but usually end up buying Voxengo on pure sound quality alone. The negatives? Voxengo interfaces are quirky and messy. Often important functions are left off (e.g. attack and release on the mastering compressor). Other times there are knobs and buttons that appear to do nothing - very confusing. I know they don't do "nothing" - there are very techy details behind all the options. I think what happens is that each new version gets a better algorithmn, but Aleksy keeps the old ones too for backwards compatibility. Elephant2 is a great limiter, but the options are confusing. Soniformer is a great multiband compressor - I bought it when it just had few knobs. Know it's so bloody complicated to use I just don't use it, which is a shame because I know it could sound great if I could get my head around the interface. Then he comes out with "simple" plugins that are so simple, they miss out important features that even the freeware competition has (e.g. wet/dry blend in AF Impulse). The over-use of convolution in Voxengo stuff is dragging me down too. Convolution hogs resources - it's not an elegant solution, it's a quick & dirty way to steal somebody elses sound because you can't model it properly yet. I much prefer the Kjaerhus approach of modeling analog circuits - much more efficient, and the interfaces are much more normal and intuitive. The sound is good too, but different. So it's a hard call, and proof that VST effects haven't really matured yet. With both Voxengo and Kjaerus you get good plugins, no customer-screwing-in-the-name-of-security and lots of great upgrades.

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greendoor wrote:The over-use of convolution in Voxengo stuff is dragging me down too...
greendoor - can you elaborate on this or point me to further discussion or details on this? Thanx

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I heard so many good things about Soniformer for mastering duties, I'm hopin to read some thoughts here...
thinkin of buying the package with it included.

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I have both, Voxengo (almost all stuff) and Ozone3.
Every plugin has its own strength.
Ozone3 has a Multiband Exciter and MBIT+ dithering (IMO, best dithering algo currently available).
In Voxengo mastering suite the Soniformer is the best Multiband/Mastering Compressor that I have. Many of you think Soniformer is difficult to handle, but not for me. For me it's the most clever design for a Multiband-Compressor (just read the manual once and all should be clear).
Best to try all the demos and get both. Both developers (iZotope,Voxengo) has great support, too.
You can't go wrong with one of them.
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Thats what I've read about Soniformer, I think you sold me.
What do people find difficult about it?

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vtx wrote:What do people find difficult about it?
greendoor said that in the above post, for instance, and I also heard similar from other Soniformer users in other forums.

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BTW, Soniformer is more than a very good compressor.
Did you know: It's also a superior stereo mangling tool (if you want to pan different frequencies in your mix).

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How about a Mastering Bundle Group Buy??
:-)

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Why do I miss GCO/GEQ in this thread? or are those not meant for mastering?

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PeterL wrote:In Voxengo mastering suite the Soniformer is the best Multiband/Mastering Compressor that I have. Many of you think Soniformer is difficult to handle, but not for me. For me it's the most clever design for a Multiband-Compressor (just read the manual once and all should be clear).
I second this concerning Voxformer...

Most of the time, I use the "better balance" preset.
I move the Thresh line to be just under the spectrum in the less loud part of the song.
Then i adjust "ration" and "wet mix" to be able to hear a difference but not to much. And i love the result.
Every thing sound more balanced... :D

It can be purchased with Elephant for 99.95$ both !!

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Greendoor, I don't know know why you dislike convolution so much. Your posts are thoughtful, intelligent, and insightful, by and large, but this particular point bears self-examination (And perhaps therapy... :-))
Convolution is not evil. Nor is it stealing, at least no more than emulation is: It's just better at it.

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