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herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:53 pm

nuffink wrote:
jens wrote:
nuffink wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote:
nuffink wrote:So if I over use compression can I be guaranteed to sound nothing like anything ever touched by alan parsons?
Any other tips on not sounding like him?
So, you don't like the sound of Dark Side of the Moon or Abbey Road?
No.
too bad for you!
Indeed. I always feel bad about not being stuck in the 1970's.

Surely You aren't implying that only those who are "Stuck in the 1970's" so to speak could possibly like these recordings?

If I like Bach does that mean I am "Stuck in the Baroque period"?

Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:53 pm

I agree that the art of production and engineering has been lost to a large degree. now you just need an MPC-2000 and baggy britches to be a "producer"

Over compressing a song is a bad idea, it is just unnatural sounding. it has its uses, but should not be the way that an album is mastered.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:54 pm

I think Nuffink thinks a compressor is not only a musical instrument but the most important one in the song.

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:54 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:
nuffink wrote: Having been forced to endure a fair bit of the alan parson project, I feel we can all be grateful for that small mercy.
Dude, a few things here.

#1: Alan Parsons Project has 2 good albums (not great) and 2 soso. But on everything from the first to now the engineering is pristine.

#2: Evaluating engineering/production and evaluating musical content are at the least two entirely different things.

#3: #2 as a concept seems to have been lost for the last 15 years and for whatever reason the music is gone and all anyone is concerned with is "how f**king loud can I get the beat"

#4: This message brought to you by the year 1973 and the letter F and U

Do you really come from Prattville?

jens · Post by **jens** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:55 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:I think Nuffink thinks a compressor is not only a musical instrument and the most important one in the song.

I think he's just trolling...

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:56 pm

nuffink wrote:Do you really come from Prattville?

LOL,no..stuck here for 1 more year though. I'm a liberal California prick (just ask Donkey-T)

McLilith · Post by **McLilith** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:56 pm

platinumears wrote: I wasn't even born in 1973!

Hmm... Okay... I guess there's no arguing with that...

McLilith

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:57 pm

jens wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote:I think Nuffink thinks a compressor is not only a musical instrument and the most important one in the song.
I think he's just trolling...

Just a minority report. Or is this a strictly for hagiography thread?

jens · Post by **jens** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:57 pm

platinumears wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote: #4: This message brought to you by the year 1973 and the letter F and U
I wasn't even born in 1973!

I was...

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:01 pm

nuffink wrote:Just a minority report. Or is this a strictly for hagiography thread?

hmm...wtf does this have to do with hagiography? Do you think Alan Parsons is being touted as a Saint here? I'm almost afraid to ask what you think a well engineered/produced album is?

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:03 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:
nuffink wrote:Just a minority report. Or is this a strictly for hagiography thread?
hmm...wtf does this have to do with hagiography? Do you think Alan Parsons is being touted as a Saint here? I'm almost afraid to ask what you think a well engineered/produced album is?

You looked it up.

And you got the literal meaning.

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:03 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:
nuffink wrote:Just a minority report. Or is this a strictly for hagiography thread?
hmm...wtf does this have to do with hagiography? Do you think Alan Parsons is being touted as a Saint here? I'm almost afraid to ask what you think a well engineered/produced album is?

Not me!

I'm dying to know!

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:05 pm

nuffink wrote:You looked it up.
And you got the literal meaning.

Actually, hating religious antiquity is a hobby, so I already knew the literal translation. Is there another?

rockstar_not · Post by **rockstar_not** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:06 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:
rockstar_not wrote:I find the AP quote very interesting since he says that he always uses it on bass guitar. I see that as kind of against the engineerintelligentsia trend to say that compression is normally bad trend that I've noticed in magazines over the past several years.

-Scott
NONONO, you miss the point. I'll bet you $100 he means he uses compressors IN LINE on the bass guitar. Like a chorus stompbox or any other effect. It is part of the recorded signal and a basic structure of the tone. Not engineered in after the fact to control level.

Without a doubt AP means a hardware, outboard compressor. Probably an LA-2A, my guess. While it might be in there to affect tone a bit, there is no doubt though, that the compressor is also being used to even out the levels of the bass player's signal. It's unavoidable.

-Scott

jens · Post by **jens** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:07 pm

nuffink wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote:
nuffink wrote:Just a minority report. Or is this a strictly for hagiography thread?
hmm...wtf does this have to do with hagiography? Do you think Alan Parsons is being touted as a Saint here? I'm almost afraid to ask what you think a well engineered/produced album is?
You looked it up.

And you got the literal meaning.

dictionary.com wrote: Word of the Day for Sunday April 10, 2005

hagiography

your memory lasts eleven days?

- I'm stunned!

Alan Parsons on compression - from the man himself...