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experimental.crow · Post by **experimental.crow** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:41 am

dburgan wrote:Ummmm ... not to be picky or anything but the name "R66" has been for a reverb ensemble within Reaktor, and earlier, with in SynC Modular, for several years .... is there a relationship?

see above ...
Martijn Zwartjes ...

brok landers · Post by **brok landers** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:27 am

normal wrote:
dburgan wrote:Ummmm ... not to be picky or anything but the name "R66" has been for a reverb ensemble within Reaktor, and earlier, with in SynC Modular, for several years .... is there a relationship?
see above ...
Martijn Zwartjes ...

yeah, just wanted to mention this, too ... it is equivalent to the spacemaster, soundwise and parameterwise ... hmmm ... i`ve played around with the demo ... the modulation sounds not bad, but if setted up as desired to destroy harshness and metalic resonances, it´s tonal structure is audibly pitching wich is mostly not desired ... just as the spacemaster does. i assume the reverb algorithm (as thats strongly what it sounds like) is not new in any kind. it sounds like an easy structure of nested allpass filters, a very common technique. for some uses very good, for real reverbs wich are used for room designing it sounds very unnatural to me.
but i have to say that this is with all reverbs i know, that are buildt up with nested allpasses.
try to make the original signal to "sit in the room" with this reverb. you won`t be able to.
i might be wrong, though, no offend at all.
just my 2 cents.

reg,

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:42 am

I'll come out of silence to agree with Brok; I've used Spacemaster now since R4's release, and the sound is signature. While I like it very much, I am intimately familiar with the drawbacks that Brok mentioned regarding pitch effects and is something I dislike very much about Spacemaster.

One other thing that niggles is the fact that Spacemaster II is emminent in R5, and the appearance of this $300 reverb with an algo authored by the same creator makes me curious why the two are overlapping..

Spacemaster II = part of R5 upgrade..

R66 VST = $300..

wtf.

Oh, and that f**king beeping almost finished off the last of my f**ked up hearing..Thanks, Martin..

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Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:55 am

ttoz wrote:
well in that case maybe I shouldn't sell my reaktor sessions i just bought for $110...IT MIGHT BE WORTH KEEPING IT JUST FOR SPACEMASTER?

Sure, I don't see why not..Martin was more than likely commisioned(read=$$$) for Spacemaster II, so I'm *positive* it's gonna be good; the fact that this new company's trying to get the junp on the Reaktor 5 release should speak for itself..

But there's at least 2 verbs in R4 that are better than Spacemaster..don't you wanna know what they are, Theo?

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Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:19 am

Ok, shithead..I'll do your homework for you..

REVERBS OF CHOICE IN REAKTOR 4:

Laserbrew
Ultimate Reverb
Phi-Master
Kraftverb

See? I even gave you a bonus verb, you facking R3taRd..

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:42 am

For your kind of Genre, ttoz, I would definately give Kraftverb & Laserbrew a shot..I think you'd get a big kick out of those two if you haven't tried them out already..

ciao,
D

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:46 am

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