Project 5 V2 Demo is up

[headquest]

Nice flash demo tho. One up on reason eh?

I thought the Reason 3 flash video trailer was better actually - I liked the way it was so "tongue in cheek", and made to look like a movie trailer.

The P5 one is good too, but lacks the humour.

[thenumber23]

I find it ironic that they don't include the Dimension or Roland GrooveSynth in the demo. I found the new V2 features just as unusable to my workflow as V1 was, so the only reason I'd upgrade is for new synths and/or effects which I can use in Sonar -- exactly the things they prevent me from seeing in the demo.

[headquest]

I find it ironic that they don't include the Dimension or Roland GrooveSynth in the demo. I found the new V2 features just as unusable to my workflow as V1 was, so the only reason I'd upgrade is for new synths and/or effects which I can use in Sonar -- exactly the things they prevent me from seeing in the demo.

Yeah I agree. As I already have Live 4/Reason/Audition, the main attraction of P5 would be the synths.

But I found with the Sonar 4 demo that the limitations prevented me from really assessing how good the program is, too. Lack of the VST wrapper, for example, combined with the horrible intermittent hiss on the Roland soundmodule, made it pretty impossible to try out Sonar's MIDI in any detail. Being VST based, knowing whether the wrapper would work properly was one of my main concerns, and I couldn't test it out.

As a general rule I think that time-limited demos (such as Adobe Audition) are better. By the end of the 30 days, if the software is good, you are so hooked in that you simply HAVE to purchase

[antardhyan]

ok, where do you set the key of the song? I'm not blind but cannot find it either. any idea?

[headquest]

Here's another question too...

Can these colours be changed? On my laptop I'm really struggling to make out the automation in the edit pane at the bottom... all those pale blue hues are hard to make out!

[kuniklo]

Here's another question too...

Can these colours be changed? On my laptop I'm really struggling to make out the automation in the edit pane at the bottom... all those pale blue hues are hard to make out!

It sounds kind of picky, but I'm finding the colors to be a real problem too. They're all too bright and there's not enough contrast. I can barely see the velocity bars for overlapping notes in the midi editor.

[headquest]

It sounds kind of picky, but I'm finding the colors to be a real problem too. They're all too bright and there's not enough contrast. I can barely see the velocity bars for overlapping notes in the midi editor.

Yep, that's also what I meant. It's surprising that something trivial like that can reduce the pleasure of working in this environment.

Some nice stuff going on in P5 though...

[jens]

ASIO4ALL v2.6 and Project5 is not getting along very well. what to do?

use the native wdm driver?

[sluggo]

can anyone confirm what Aldi is saying regarding the audio editing, i'm having a difficult time understanding the post. Are you saying that project 5 actualy won't let you 'edit audio' and that it doesn't have an 'audio syncing feature'? ...I assumed it would have audio syncing like sonar or at least better...i'm very confused.

It looks to me like the audio features of P5 v2 include:
importing and recording of audio
slicing and joining of audio clips (so if you want to cut the first 8th of your recording off and then move the clip 1/8 earlier you can do this)
freezing
slice automation of acid/groove clips (modifing pan, vol, etc of each slice)
transforming audio clips into groove clips (ie groove clips can be rolled out along the track arrangement, and will stretch according to song tempo, while audio clips are static)

Looks like you can't edit the lengths of several notes at a time.

I was looking for this too. You can select multiple notes then go to the to menus and pick tools - length.

And although I'm not a big fan of the colors in terms of I'd never buy a shirt that is the color of the editor, I nonetheless find these colors very easy on my eyes and they give excellent clarity/contrast imo.

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[jens]

can anyone confirm what Aldi is saying regarding the audio editing, i'm having a difficult time understanding the post. Are you saying that project 5 actualy won't let you 'edit audio' and that it doesn't have an 'audio syncing feature'? ...I assumed it would have audio syncing like sonar or at least better...i'm very confused.

I can't really follow his post tbh - slip-editing works just as in Sonar...

[kuniklo]

Looks like you can't edit the lengths of several notes at a time.

I was looking for this too. You can select multiple notes then go to the to menus and pick tools - length.

Yuck. I want to be able to just select a bunch of notes and drag their length like Cubase or Live.

[sluggo]

Looks like you can't edit the lengths of several notes at a time.

I was looking for this too. You can select multiple notes then go to the to menus and pick tools - length.

Yuck. I want to be able to just select a bunch of notes and drag their length like Cubase or Live.

I know what you mean. I entered this on cakewalk's website feature request a year ago. I also couldn't find groove snapping (ie moving non-quantized notes to the left or right by 1/4note, 1/8 note etc). Whenever I try to move the note left or right it always snaps. But I found out that if you use your cursor key instead of the mouse, you can groove snap the note (I'm borrowing this terminology from the ableton manual).

have you checked out the track layers yet? These are sweet for StylusRMX

[kuniklo]

have you checked out the track layers yet? These are sweet for StylusRMX

A little bit. They look pretty cool.

[atomic_(no)afro]

I was part of the beta-testing team P5II, so I'm going to get my copy sometime soon. I will let you know what I think when I finally get it (and am no longer contractually obligated to keep my trap shut).

ATA

[WillieJenkins]

After playing with the demo (not enough mind you), Its not going to replace live for me.

If I didn't need to have the full power of Sonar, and didn't need the actual live-playing ability of Live, I'd scrap them both and use P5. It sits right on that fence, fast enough to keep musical ideas happening, and has lots of nice traditional DAW features to enable you to build complex projects.