Every time I export an audiomixdown in cubase it sounds crap

[davor]

So, if Mr. Vestman does have golden ears or not is absolutely pointless for this thread

And golden ears are still worth less than platinum ears

It depends on whether these platinum ears are simply self proclaimed, or whether they have credits to back that up. I sincerely doubt that any of kvr members have done any serious mastering for any serious artist, let alone Sting. Just to qoute what some people say about John:

"Bang for the buck, John Vestman is one of the best I've discovered in the LA Area."
--Matt (Zeke) Silva - Engineer - Madonna's "Ray of Light" album

[j_T]

So, if Mr. Vestman does have golden ears or not is absolutely pointless for this thread

And golden ears are still worth less than platinum ears

What about diamond ears? Hummm....

Diamond?

I'd consider a minimum of "flexibility" a necessity

To return to the original posters problem: It looks like he does save a sequence to disc that's different from the one he creates during mixing. Perhaps, some of his settings are wrong. I don't know Cubase very well. But as far as I remember there's lots of possible settings. some of them quite efficiently hidden in "secret" menus and windows

Regards,

Tommy

[stefancrs]

davor: you're amusing just go make some measurements. the difference between the three hosts I've tested, podium, cubase sx and audition is at -150dB, which is due to floating point precision. This is not audible. I used 16 tracks and buss sends. If I just ever could come around and put it online. Meanwhile, just test it for yourself.

Some math skills and knowledge in how to conduct objective tests are needed though.

[davor]

So, if Mr. Vestman does have golden ears or not is absolutely pointless for this thread

And golden ears are still worth less than platinum ears

It depends on whether these platinum ears are self proclaimed or whether they have credits to back that up. I seriously doubt that Mr. Platinumears or any of you here who contradict what he (and I ) claims have ever done any serious mastering for any serious artist, but I could be wrong. I'm almost sure that he hasn't done any mastering for Sting. Mr. Vestman, on the other hand has. Just to quote what some people say about him:

"Bang for the buck, John Vestman is one of the best I've discovered in the LA Area."
--Matt (Zeke) Silva - Engineer - Madonna's "Ray of Light" album

[davor]

davor: you're amusing just go make some measurements. the difference between the three hosts I've tested, podium, cubase sx and audition is at -150dB, which is due to floating point precision. This is not audible. I used 16 tracks and buss sends. If I just ever could come around and put it online. Meanwhile, just test it for yourself.

Some math skills and knowledge in how to conduct objective tests are needed though.

I did test it Stef, I'm talking out of experience, not out of sheer assumptions, unfortunately. But I agree this discussion doesn't lead to anywhere cause we're obviously not on the same level. Let somebody answer the poor guy who opened this thread in the first place.

[butter]

So, if Mr. Vestman does have golden ears or not is absolutely pointless for this thread

And golden ears are still worth less than platinum ears

It depends on whether these platinum ears are self proclaimed or whether they have credits to back that up. I seriously doubt that Mr. Platinumears or any of you here who contradict what he (and I ) claims have ever done any serious mastering for any serious artist, but I could be wrong. I'm almost sure that he hasn't done any mastering for Sting. Mr. Vestman, on the other hand has. Just to quote what some people say about him:

"Bang for the buck, John Vestman is one of the best I've discovered in the LA Area."
--Matt (Zeke) Silva - Engineer - Madonna's "Ray of Light" album

Are working for this guy or what? Numbers don't lie. DAW summing is not going to be drastically different between different hosts and if he's saying that his mix sounds drastically different I would say his ears are not the problem. I noticed in your profile that you're a "student". Studying audio? If you are, that means you still have a lot to learn.

Back to the actual problem. When you play back audio files outside of your host, is everything as it should be? Are you mixing down real-time? How long have you had your soundcard/DAW setup? Have you had any computer related problems recently?

[coldmachine]

Read some of Vestmans articles. Misinformation used in order to generate income, nothing more. As an aside... There ARE people here who have been significantly more sucessful then Mr V.

[davor]

So, if Mr. Vestman does have golden ears or not is absolutely pointless for this thread

And golden ears are still worth less than platinum ears

It depends on whether these platinum ears are self proclaimed or whether they have credits to back that up. I seriously doubt that Mr. Platinumears or any of you here who contradict what he (and I ) claims have ever done any serious mastering for any serious artist, but I could be wrong. I'm almost sure that he hasn't done any mastering for Sting. Mr. Vestman, on the other hand has. Just to quote what some people say about him:

"Bang for the buck, John Vestman is one of the best I've discovered in the LA Area."
--Matt (Zeke) Silva - Engineer - Madonna's "Ray of Light" album

Are working for this guy or what? Numbers don't lie. DAW summing is not going to be drastically different between different hosts and if he's saying that his mix sounds drastically different I would say his ears are not the problem. I noticed in your profile that you're a "student". Studying audio? If you are, that means you still have a lot to learn.

Back to the actual problem. When you play back audio files outside of your host, is everything as it should be? Are you mixing down real-time? How long have you had your soundcard/DAW setup? Have you had any computer related problems recently?

No I'm not working for John, unfortunately. I'm in the other part of the world. Numbers do lie. Have you ever read this article?
http://www.rogernichols.com/EQ/EQ_2000_02.html

Read it, maybe you can learn how numbers can lie.
Quote."Just remember, all of the expensive test gear said the pressings were perfect. The quality control people at the record company said we were crazy, the test equipment said the pressings were perfect. When asked if they listened to the CD pressing they said "No, do we need to?" Still the best piece of test gear is your ears. Use them and protect them" (Roger Nichols-engineer for Steely Dan)

The problem is your ears. Either you have experience and talent and you hear the differencer, or you don't. Nobody said that the difference is drastic. It's not drastic, but it's still important.
I'm not studying audio. I still got a lot to learn, but not related to this topic. Anyway,the lack of talent, and ironears cannot be "corrected" by learning. It's you who still has a lot of listening to do. And no, I havent't had any computer related problems lately.

[davor]

Read some of Vestmans articles. Misinformation used in order to generate income, nothing more. As an aside... There ARE people here who have been significantly more sucessful then Mr V.

Where? In dance-techno charts? Name one.

[butter]

So, if Mr. Vestman does have golden ears or not is absolutely pointless for this thread

And golden ears are still worth less than platinum ears

It depends on whether these platinum ears are self proclaimed or whether they have credits to back that up. I seriously doubt that Mr. Platinumears or any of you here who contradict what he (and I ) claims have ever done any serious mastering for any serious artist, but I could be wrong. I'm almost sure that he hasn't done any mastering for Sting. Mr. Vestman, on the other hand has. Just to quote what some people say about him:

"Bang for the buck, John Vestman is one of the best I've discovered in the LA Area."
--Matt (Zeke) Silva - Engineer - Madonna's "Ray of Light" album

Are working for this guy or what? Numbers don't lie. DAW summing is not going to be drastically different between different hosts and if he's saying that his mix sounds drastically different I would say his ears are not the problem. I noticed in your profile that you're a "student". Studying audio? If you are, that means you still have a lot to learn.

Back to the actual problem. When you play back audio files outside of your host, is everything as it should be? Are you mixing down real-time? How long have you had your soundcard/DAW setup? Have you had any computer related problems recently?

No I'm not working for John, unfortunately. I'm in the other part of the world. Numbers do lie. Have you ever read this article?
http://www.rogernichols.com/EQ/EQ_2000_02.html

Read it, maybe you can learn how numbers can lie.
Quote."Just remember, all of the expensive test gear said the pressings were perfect. The quality control people at the record company said we were crazy, the test equipment said the pressings were perfect. When asked if they listened to the CD pressing they said "No, do we need to?" Still the best piece of test gear is your ears. Use them and protect them" (Roger Nichols-engineer for Steely Dan)

The problem is your ears. Either you have experience and talent and you hear the differencer, or you don't. Nobody said that the difference is drastic. It's not drastic, but it's still important.
I'm not studying audio. I still got a lot to learn, but not related to this topic. Anyway,the lack of talent, and ironears cannot be "corrected" by learning. It's you who still has a lot of listening to do. And no, I havent't got any computer related problems lately.

Are you the one with the problem with Cubase? No. That question was directed at the person with the actual problem. You are trying to argue something that is completely unrelated to the actual problem.

You obviously have a fair share of problems though. So you have a lot to learn but not about this topic? So you know everything about it already? WOW! What a relief. I'll make sure that I direct all of my future questions about anything audio related to you....

[coldmachine]

People guard thier privacy here. There are always failed musicians who hang round the biz trying to feed on the scraps dropped by those with talent....Will Hans Zimmer do for you?

[davor]

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Are you the one with the problem with Cubase? No. That question was directed at the person with the actual problem. You are trying to argue something that is completely unrelated to the actual problem.

You obviously have a fair share of problems though. So you have a lot to learn but not about this topic? So you know everything about it already? WOW! What a relief. I'll make sure that I direct all of my future questions about anything audio related to you....[/quote]


No, I'm not that person, and you are unbelievable, you don't even now who you are communicating with. You should pay more attention. If you can help hel the poor guy with the problem, don't try to "help" me

[davor]

People guard thier privacy here. There are always failed musicians who hang round the biz trying to feed on the scraps dropped by those with talent....Will Hans Zimmer do for you?

Great. I've heard he's a Cubase user. I respect him, he's a great musician, but I was refering to sound engineers and mastering engineers primarily. They are more sound oriented than musicians, although that's not the rule by any means, and a musician may make a living as an engineer at the same time. Anyway, even if Mr.Zimmer participated in these forums at some point or the other, I sincerely doubt that he's participating in this thread.

[coldmachine]

On that note I bid you farewell.Your quest will be a long one

[davor]

On that note I bid you farewell.Your quest will be a long one

What quest?